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Re: [cdt-dev] Static Analysis Framework for CDT

Cool. Elena, could you elaborate on what's in gcc that's not in the CDT
AST/Bindings?

Thanks,
Doug.

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:24 -0400, Elena Laskavaia wrote:
> Parts of it implemented in ptp. It is not good as gcc but it different technology anyway.
> 
> Dominique Toupin wrote:
> > Markus, are you planning on providing advanced static analysis e.g.
> > data-flow analysis :-)
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> >> Sent: 17-Apr-09 11:53
> >> To: CDT General developers list.
> >> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Static Analysis Framework for CDT
> >>
> >> Then I suggest that you need to take a closer look at the CDT 
> >> core ;) Markus's EclipseCon presentation would be a great 
> >> place to start.
> >>
> >> Doug.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 11:21 -0400, Dominique Toupin wrote:
> >>> In practice I don't think CDT parser has the same 
> >> info/capability as 
> >>> GCC, GCC has a lot of info about the code and we can do 
> >> advance static 
> >>> analysis (not grep like) with this info.
> >>> I am not suggesting to integrate GCC code into CDT, the GCC static 
> >>> analysis would be an external tool just like GCC/GDB today.
> >>> Even if it's an external tool it brings a lot of features 
> >> to CDT, it's 
> >>> just like compile (GCC) and debug (GDB) today.
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> >>>> Sent: 17-Apr-09 09:52
> >>>> To: CDT General developers list.
> >>>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Static Analysis Framework for CDT
> >>>>
> >>>> My bigger concern is that all GCC plug-ins must be GPL. I'd 
> >>>> especially be worried about plug-ins written specifically for the 
> >>>> CDT and whether that affects the definition of "derived"
> >>>> and thus, causing us legal grief.
> >>>>
> >>>> At any rate, theoretically, the CDT parsers already 
> >> create the same 
> >>>> information that gcc would. And we can avoid any legal 
> >> problems that 
> >>>> way.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 09:43 -0400, Elena Laskavaia wrote:
> >>>>> GCC plugins means it would be part of GCC which is external
> >>>> to eclipse?
> >>>>> If so it can be just run as external and not part of the
> >>>> framework which is Java based.
> >>>>> Dominique Toupin wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Elena,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you are doing simple rules, CDT alone should be OK 
> >> but if you 
> >>>>>> need complicated rules (e.g. data-flow analysis) then you
> >>>> might want
> >>>>>> to also look at GCC plugin
> >>>> http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GCC_Plugins, they
> >>>>>> did progress and hopefully the architecture will be
> >>>> resolve for the
> >>>>>> GCC summit (http://gccsummit.org/2009/), some CDT committers 
> >>>>>> will also attend the GCC summit (at least Francois and Marc).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Last year at the GCC summit some static analysis tools
> >>>> based on GCC
> >>>>>> where presented e.g. 
> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Treehydra,
> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Dehydra?rdfrom=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.m
> >>>>>> ozil la.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DDehydra_GCC%26redirect%3Dno.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If we can have good static analysis rules with GCC
> >>>> plugins it will
> >>>>>> make sense to integrate those into CDT.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dominique
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> >>>>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elena 
> >>>>>>> Laskavaia
> >>>>>>> Sent: 16-Apr-09 22:44
> >>>>>>> To: CDT General developers list.
> >>>>>>> Subject: [cdt-dev] Static Analysis Framework for CDT
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is something I am doing in my spare time - I want to 
> >>>>>>> create static analysis framework for CDT, light weigh set of
> >>>> classes that
> >>>>>>> allow to have common interface for dealing with problems
> >>>> produced
> >>>>>>> by static analysis tools (and some default checkers,
> >>>> such what JDT
> >>>>>>> has, i.e Potential Null Pointer Dereference, etc).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> See design details at: 
> >>>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/designs/StaticAnalysis
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