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RE: [cdt-dev] CDT Debugging on Windows using Microsoft debugger

+1

Our Ada environment on Windows is compatible with MSVC. Lack of full support
for MSVC in CDT is hindering our Windows users from using Eclipse when their
application is multi-language.

Tom Grosman, Aonix

-----Message d'origine-----
De : cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la
part de Schaefer, Doug
Envoyé : Friday, April 18, 2008 12:13 AM
À : mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; CDT General developers list.
Objet : RE: [cdt-dev] CDT Debugging on Windows using Microsoft debugger

In all seriousness. Yes.

We get a small but continuous stream of requests to support the
Microsoft C++ toolchain in Eclipse. There is also a commercial bent to
it, customers that use the CDT for supported platforms who also do work
on Windows and want to use the same IDE with the high quality Microsoft
compiler (and I have personally met such paying customers of Eclipse
vendors).

Unfortunately, the barrier appears to be too high to justify the
investment. If Microsoft was willing to lower that barrier, by providing
a supported API for debug integration with the CDT we could then find
contributors to invest in this. I think it's a win-win by enabling C++
developers to continue to target Microsoft platforms while working in
Eclipse.

Doug.

-----Original Message-----
From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:53 PM
To: 'CDT General developers list.'
Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT Debugging on Windows using Microsoft debugger

So in all seriousness, do you want me to ask Sam what Microsoft's
position would be on helping CDT enable this support?

Mike Milinkovich
Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228
Mobile: +1.613.220.3223
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Pawel Piech
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:56 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] CDT Debugging on Windows using Microsoft
> debugger
>
> I know that the TCF component in the DSDP/TM project has an agent
> prototype for Windows, but it's of very limited functionality.  I
> think the main roadblock to good MS debugger support is the MSVC debug

> symbol data format.  I actually chatted with an MSVC engineer at
> EclipseCon this year and asked him about this issue.  It seems that
> the general debugging interface is an API that belongs to the Windows
> group, and there are strict (read court ordered) publishing
> requirements for this API.  However the debug symbol files generated
> by the MSVC compiler/linker are consumed only by the MSVC debugger
> only and are internal to the MSVC group.  I'm sure that there would be

> a lot of technical and political challenges to making this format
> open, but you can always ask... I think it was asksam@xxxxxxxxxxx :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Pawel
>
> Pavel Krupets wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > As I understand there is no support for Microsoft debugger. Is it
> based on some political/legal reasons? Patents?
> > I am willing to commit my time and skills to add support for this
> debugger and if someone is working on this I am willing to help, if
> not I am willing to start this project (want to be dead sure before
> starting it, I'd rather help working on existing project).
> >
> > With regards,
> > Pavel Krupets
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________




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