Hi Lars,
Regarding April 1st, Eclipse M6 is April 1st,
but CDT M6 is April 11th. I interpret that to mean that the CDT
API freeze is April 11th.
Your proposal looks good! I have comments in 2 areas:
1. Regarding the persistence of tool-chain Options values:
There is no way that you would have known this, since the Build Macros design
has not been posted yet, but only user-defined build macro values will be
persisted by the MBS. MBS will call a tool integration when it wants to
know which build macros the tool integration has defined and what the values
are. I think this means that the tool-chain Option values should be
persisted, and there is no need for the persistValue attribute. Also,
build macros, except for build macros whose value is an environment variable,
will be resolved before generating the make file.
2. Regarding the IManagedOptionValueManager interface: I
suggest changing the name to IManagedOptionValueHandler.
“Manager” seems to be used in Eclipse names for objects that manage
a group of items. I suggest that the manageValue method be renamed to
handleEvemt. I’d like to define 2 additional event enumerated
values:
- EVENT_LOSEFOCUS: a chance to validate the value
- EVENT_CANCEL: for completeness
I’d also like to add two additional methods that deal with option
values:
- boolean isDefaultValue(): returns True if the
current value of the Option is its default value
- boolean isEnumValueAppropriate(int): returns True
if the passed-in enumeration value is currently a valid choice. This
method is called before the MBS displays the combo box associated with an
enumerated Option. MBS will not add currently invalid choices to the
combo box.
Thanks,
Leo
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Leo, Chris,
please
find attached the "Shared Tool Options" proposal for review. I am a
bit tight with time (going on holidays on the 24th), so I omitted the
listDelimiter side of the proposal.
>
Keep in mind we have to freeze API design for M6
on April 1st…
Chris,
what does this exactly mean? I suppose it means that designs for changes to
publicly visible APIs must be done and agreed by April 1st.
Best
Regards
--
Lars
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Leo,
I am going to be on holidays until April the 1st. I will try and get a proposal
together in the first or 2nd week of april. I will include the listDelimiter
proposal which you mentioned in the "[cdt-dev] Feedback on "Multiple
Tool Inputs and Outputs design" e-mail trail.
What should we use as baseline? It seems that both proposals are independent of
the development that goes on in CDT3.0, so it should be possible to create a
patch based on CDT2.1.1. I would prefer the latter.
Best Regards
-- Lars
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Hi Lars,
- One which allows to
retrieve and set up default values of the new optionCategory and option
elements before they are shown. The reason for this is that the user may
manually change the build macros using the build macro UI.
I think that this is Option element
functionality. Currently an Option can have a “static”
default value. One of the “below the line” MBS requirements
is:
1. An option can provide a method to
be called to return its default value. This supports the case where the
default value of the option changes based upon the value of another option(s)
or some other environment setting.
As with other currently “below the line” functionality, if you (or
your team) is willing to design and implement this, we could get it in 3.0.
Regards,
Leo
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Leo,
this looks like a workable approach.
> The tool-integration would be able to retrieve the
option values from
> MBS callbacks.
For a clean solution we may need two call-backs:
- One which allows to
retrieve and set up default values of the new optionCategory and option
elements before they are shown. The reason for this is that the user may
manually change the build macros using th build macro UI.
- One which allows to query
the values of the new optionCategory and option elements after they
have been set (as you proposed).
They could of course be implemented as one entry in the
MBS grammar. The difficulty is to decide when the callbacks are called.
Whether your proposal meets our requirement would depend on the detailed design
of the Build Macros proposal. There would need to be an API which allows
setting and querying of Build Macros.
> If you agree that this would meet your requirement,
would you be willing
> to submit a design for supporting OptionCategory and Option children of
> ToolChain elements, and implement the design for CDT 3.0?
I will discuss this at Symbian this week and will come back to you later this
week.
Regards
-- Lars
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Hi Lars,
I've been thinking about your requirement below and have a
counter-proposal.
1.1 Shared Tool Options
A number of Symbian tools require that identical options are passed into
each individual tool. For example the resource compiler, AIF file
generator and compiler require a set of shared -D and -I options.
Platform security options are another example. Here the user has to
choose from a global set of security attributes (e.g. CapabilityAll)
which map onto different options for different tools (e.g. -Security=xyz
for the resource compiler, -DSECURITY=0xabc for the compiler, etc.). If
inconsistent options are passed to the tools, the resulting binary will
not work correctly or may fail to build.
MBS supports defining options per tool only. This means that shared
options have to be replicated in different tools and that the user has
to keep them in sync manually.
My idea is allow OptionCategory and Option elements to be children of
the
ToolChain element. ToolChain categories would display in the Tool
Settings page at the top level, that is, at the same level as the Tools.
The values set in these options would not be used in command line
generation - the command, commandFalse, and resourceFilter attributes
would be ignored.
The tool-integration would be able to retrieve the option values from
MBS callbacks.
For your usage, you would use build macros in the options to be set from
the values of the ToolChain options. The build macros design will be
coming soon. A tool-integration will be able to define build macros and
their values. You would set your build macro values from your
tool-chain options.
If you agree that this would meet your requirement, would you be willing
to submit a design for supporting OptionCategory and Option children of
ToolChain elements, and implement the design for CDT 3.0?
Thanks,
Leo
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