| Hi folks,   Concerning the BOFs, I did get information back from 
the EclipseCon organizers -- please see the email from Bjorn further below. The 
bottom line is that we have the freedom to organize our own BOFs, as well as set 
the schedule.   To get the ball rolling, our original proposal was to 
hold 2 BOFs, as listed below.   Eclipse CDT 
BOF: Meet the experts and discuss 
the implementation and direction of CDT. The format will likely be a series of 
mini-overviews on different aspects of CDT along with open 
discussions.Intel, IBM, QNX and Redhat 
have volunteered to present here. We will also try to get a few customers to 
present their experiences.   Remote development and 
debugging BOF: TI, HP, Montavista and IBM 
have expressed strong interest in hosting this. The main focus would be on the 
specific challenges of using Eclipse and CDT in a host/target configuration, 
both for development and debugging. This spans the range from deeply embedded 
(TI) to traditional embedded (Mvista) to the server/mini types of apps (HP and 
IBM). I also expect we can get a couple of customers to participate in this as 
well.   My suggestion is to 
schedule these for the Tuesday and Wednesday - the general CDT BOF on Tuesday 
the 29th, and the remote development/debugging BOF on Wednesday (March 
1st).   As for the content, I 
do know that additional companies (e.g. Windriver) have expressed interest in 
participating, so maybe we can start by having everyone throw out what they'd 
like to contribute (discussion topics, mini-presentations, demos etc) and we'll 
collect it into the BOF "program".   Cheers,   Sebastien 
 
  
  
  Sebastien, Please forward 
  this clarification to the CDT mailing list - thank you.   I, as the 
  EclipseCon Organizing Chair / Final Arbitrar of All Things EclipseCon, 
  received a forwarded copy of this CDT mailing list and I'd like to take the 
  opportunity to set the record straight / clarify the 
  situation... 
    
    
    
    
    
    While working out some issues 
    with my registration I just got word from Meeting Strategies Worldwide 
    (they're doing the registration etc for EclipseCon) that the decision on 
    which BOFs to go with will be made onsite. Yes, you read that right - onsite 
    on the day of. 
    This means that if we want to do 
    a BOF we will have to submit our proposals yet 
    again. 
    I have just 
    received word today that all BoF submissions have been neither accepted nor 
    rejected – all BoFs will now be decided upon onsite at the conference.  
    An email will be sent very soon, to all people who have submitted BoFs 
    detailing the process for getting their BoF submitted 
    onsite. 
    It might be 
    worthwhile to not rely on the EclipseCon organizers for this and organize a 
    BOF ourselves - does anyone from the Bay area got some meeting space they 
    could donate? ;^)  We (and by this I mean the Singular We, i.e., me) 
  decided to organize the BOFs at EclipseCon 2005 exactly the same way 
  they were run at EclipseCon 2004. We made this choice because it is organizationally 
  much simpler. Here's how it worked last year and here's how it's going to work 
  this year: 
    
    One goal for BOFs is to facilitate the informal 
    gathering of similarly interested attendees.
    Another goal for BOFs is to make the process of 
    gathering for a BOF as simple as possible for everyone 
    involved.
    Another goal is to make best use of the meeting 
    space we have available. Thus we want to provide the larger rooms to the 
    BOFs with more people and the smaller rooms to those with fewer 
    people.
    An explicit negative goal for BOFs is to prevent 
    their being hijacked by companies using them as advertising pitches. 
    Allowing BOFs to be pre-scheduled has, at other conferences, allowed them to 
    be taken over by marketing types. So, here's the process - it's very simple and I think 
  you'll find that it easily meets your needs as well our overall 
  goals: 
    
    At EclipseCon there is a bulletin board.  
    Beside the bulletin board are blank sign-up 
    sheets.
    You arrive at the conference, you go to the 
    bulletin board, you take a sign-up sheet and write "CDT" in the title box. 
    You thumb tack it on the bulletin board.
    During the day, interested people sign up on the 
    sheets on the board for the BOFs they are interested 
    in.
    At 5pm, the organizers (that's me or one of the 
    other volunteers) looks at the attendance of each of the BOFs on the board 
    and assigns them to rooms by writing, in big letters, the room name (e.g., 
    Seaside B) on the page.
    After enjoying the free food at the reception that 
    evening, people wander by the bulletin board to learn which room their BOF 
    is assigned to. This process meets the 
  goals: 
    
    People can decided to meet in a BOF in advance or 
    at the last minute. If you want to schedule it in advance, simple agree 
    amongst all your colleagues that you are going to have a BOF on, say, 
    Tuesday night.  Put up a sign-up sheet, sign-up, and get assigned a 
    room.  The BOF I'm involved in (Language Toolkits and Universal IDEs) 
    is doing exactly that - see the announcement that Chris Laffra posted to the 
    eclipse.eclipsecon newsgroup.
    Simple physical sheets of paper are easy. Without 
    having to write any complex programs, they allow us to easily allocate rooms 
    by size and they are easy for the people attending the conference to sign up 
    on and to read.
    Allocating rooms at 5pm the day-of allows us to 
    make the best use of space. There are plenty of rooms, but some of them are 
    very small and I'd hate to have to pre-guess the size of each BOF. I know I 
    don't know whether CDT or WTP is going to draw a larger crowd. This way we 
    will know.
    Not pre-scheduling BOFs prevents vendors from using 
    them as advertising rooms because they can't say "come by room X at time Y 
    to hear us talk about product Z".  It allows you and your colleagues to 
    do so, because you are collectively agreeing to meet, but it prevents sales 
    pitches because in those cases there is no collective agreement - it's a 
    one-way communication. So, by all means, please schedule a CDT BOF. I look 
  forward to your having a really great time at the conference, and I apologize 
  if this mechanism was not explained to you before.  Mea 
  culpa...   Regards, Bjorn Freeman-Benson EclipseCon Organizing 
Chair   |