RE: [cdt-debug-dev] CDT and RCP

[Doug Schaefer <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>]

RCP really only specifies a minimum set of plugins that allow the Workbench
(the fundamental GUI look to Eclipse) to work. You can add anything you want
on top, to the point where you get the same CDT + Eclipse Platform you have
today.

For standalone debugging, I think the real question is how much can you
remove from the CDT + Platform combination and still have a working debug
scenario. If we can cut it down, simplify the UI, and lower the barrier to
entry, I think this would be a huge coup for the CDT. I'll try to work some
cycles into my schedule to help you guys out with this if someone drives it.

Cheers,
Doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-debug-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-debug-dev-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:22 AM
> To: CDT Debug developers list
> Subject: RE: [cdt-debug-dev] CDT and RCP
> 
> It depends on what you mean I guess...
> 
> We borrow way too many things from the platform to have a proper IDE
> without them.  E.g. concepts of projects, builders, debuggers, etc., and
> also nice GUI things such as perspectives, all come from the platform.
> You don't get that with the RCP subset of the platform.
> 
> That being said, we've talked about making certain parts of CDT (e.g.
> debugger, build) able to be run headless.  If some day we follow through
> with that, then in theory someone could maybe build an RCP-like app on top
> of those components (although you'd still need a few more bits of the
> platform than stock RCP).
> 
> It's a nice idea, but speaking realistically, given how few people we have
> committing on CDT right now, the likelihood of this happening any time
> soon is pretty much nil.
> 
> ___________________________________________
> 
> Chris Recoskie
> Software Designer
> Texas Instruments, Toronto
> http://eclipse.org/cdt
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-debug-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-debug-dev-
> > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Harboe
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:12 AM
> > To: cdt-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [cdt-debug-dev] CDT and RCP
> >
> > Is it at all realistic to package CDT as an http://www.eclipse.org/rcp/
> > application?
> >
> > One of my hobby horses is that CDT should be made available as a GDB GUI
> > without introducing any other new concepts.
> >
> > Once developers are hooked on the CDT RCP app, the full Eclipse CDT is
> > next stop obviously :-)
> >
> > GCJ has come a long way, so it might be possible to run an CDT RCP app
> > without having Java installed, which should also help overcome some
> > initial FUD.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Øyvind Harboe
> > http://www.zylin.com
> >
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