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Re: [babel-dev] Babel should join the release train

Kit,

Those are all great questions!  Here's what I think:


On 10/30/2012 01:19 PM, Kit Lo wrote:

- Potentially, this may mean that more Eclipse users will be aware of the Babel language packs. Will our current server be able to handle the load? Do we need to upgrade any hardware or software to prepare for this?

Our virtual server is just fine.  The database, however, would need some work.  Please see:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=373204


- Babel is still in Incubation Phase (for the longest time :-)). Are are allowed to join the release train?

We should exit incubation.  I think it is time.  With new committers for the plugins, the maturity of the server code and the relative quality of the translations, I think it is time.

- As we all know, our translations for each language are not 100% complete, and probably will never be by release time. And, the completeness for each language varies a lot! There are many languages that are less than 25% complete. We have to set the expectation clear, so that users of the language packs do not think that the Babel translations are bad quality. It's just because we don't have enough participation for some languages.

Good point.  I've created bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=393180 which I think could help.

- Do we believe the quality of the Babel translations are good enough for general consumption? (I'm proud to say I believe so :-)).

I haven't heard otherwise, and we know of others who are using the Babel language packs as a basis for their own commercial products.  Whatever glitches may be can easily be fixed by the community.

- If we have to release together with the release train, which is the busiest time for many Eclipse development teams (including Denis and I), can we commit to this release schedule? I think I can work around my schedule to handle this. Denis, how about you?

Actually, the month of June is relatively quiet for me, since most projects are done building for the release. End of August/Early September, on the other hand, is just plain impossible.

So, from my side, I don't see any major blockers for releasing in the June timeframe if you are capable of performing your usual release duties at that time.

Denis




Regards,
Kit Lo
Eclipse Babel Project Lead
IBM Eclipse SDK (IES) Globalization Technical Lead
IBM Rational solution for Collaborative Lifecycle Management (CLM) Globalization Technical Lead


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          see: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=39257Denis Roy ---10/30/2012 11:51:40 AM---Please see: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=392570

From: Denis Roy <denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: babel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 10/30/2012 11:51 AM
Subject: [babel-dev] Babel should join the release train
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Please see:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=392570

In essence, I think it would be valuable to our international
communities if Babel language packs would be part of the annual release
train.  If Kit agrees and no one objects, I'll look into what is
required to make that happen.

Denis


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