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Macon,

>Thanks... this has resolved our issue.  We're now using LTW with a concrete
>Aspect defined in code.

Good.

If you have the time perhaps you could open a bug report detailing your setup, the problem you encountered and the workaround. This might help others in the future. It will also ensure we don't forget about the problem.

Matthew Webster
AOSD Project
Java Technology Centre, MP146
IBM United Kingdom Limited
Hursley Park, Winchester,  SO21 2JN, England
Telephone: +44 196 2816139 (external) 246139 (internal)



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Matt,

Thanks... this has resolved our issue.  We're now using LTW with a concrete
Aspect defined in code.

Macon


>From: Matthew Webster <matthew_webster@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
>To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [aspectj-users] Scoping or Weaving problem
>(???)withLTWin                 anEARon a WAR
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:03:58 +0100
>
>Macon,
>
> >I'm guessing it would go something like this:
>Correct.
>
> >It's that third step "In aop.xml add a concrete definition that refers to
>
> >the concrete aspect I created in code. " that I'm unsure whether I need
>to
> >do.
>http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/doc/released/devguide/ltw-configuration.html#configuring-load-time-weaving-with-aopxml-files
>
>Matthew Webster
>AOSD Project
>Java Technology Centre, MP146
>IBM United Kingdom Limited
>Hursley Park, Winchester,  SO21 2JN, England
>Telephone: +44 196 2816139 (external) 246139 (internal)
>
>
>
>"Macon Pegram" <mpdisposal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>RE: [aspectj-users] Scoping or Weaving problem (???) withLTWin  anEARon a
>WAR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Ok... I get what you're suggesting (and I have actually run it with
>-verbose
>on, but not -debug in the past).
>
>You are correct... we are using an abstract aspect that is defined as a
>concrete through the aop.xml.   I'm not precisely sure I understand how to
>
>do LTW with the concrete aspect. If you'll indulge me for a minute, I'd
>like
>to try to explain how I think it should be done, and get some confirmation
>
>of the approach.
>
>I'm guessing it would go something like this:
>- Jump into Eclipse and extend the abstract aspect as a concrete with a
>well
>defined pointcut.
>- In aop.xml remove the abstract-concrete definition that it currently
>has.
>- In aop.xml add a concrete definition that refers to the concrete aspect
>I
>created in code.
>- While I'm there sprinkle in the -debug/-verbose options
>- Fire up the app and see what happens.
>
>It's that third step "In aop.xml add a concrete definition that refers to
>the concrete aspect I created in code. " that I'm unsure whether I need to
>
>do.
>
>Thanks for your time and advice on this matter!
>
>Macon
>
> >From: Matthew Webster <matthew_webster@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: RE: [aspectj-users] Scoping or Weaving problem (???)
> >withLTWin               anEARon a WAR
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:25:39 +0100
> >
> >Macon,
> >
> > >Are you suggesting trying "static" weaving?
> >No. I surmised from you posts that you have defined an abstract aspect
> >somewhere in your EAR and defined a concrete sub-aspect in an aop.xml
>also
> >somewhere in your EAR e.g.
> >
> ><aspectj>
> >     <aspects>
> >         <concrete-aspect name="
> >com.XXX.YYY.governor.aspects.ConcreteGovernor"
> >             extends="com.XXX.YYY.governor.aspects.AbstractGovernor ">
> >                 <pointcut name="..." _expression_="..."/>
> >         </concrete-aspect>
> >     </aspects>
> ></aspectj>
> >
> >Is this correct? If so my suggestion was to replace the aop.xml
>definition
> >(which results in an aspect and hence a class being generated at runtime)
> >with a concrete aspect defined using code. You can still use LTW which
> >given the complex structure of your application seems like the best
> >approach.
> >
> >If possible you might like to define a META-INF/aop.xml in the
>problematic
> >WAR file that just turns on some extra debug information:
> >
> ><aspectj>
> >         <weaver options="-debug -verbose"/>
> ></aspectj>
> >
> >Matthew Webster
> >AOSD Project
> >Java Technology Centre, MP146
> >IBM United Kingdom Limited
> >Hursley Park, Winchester,  SO21 2JN, England
> >Telephone: +44 196 2816139 (external) 246139 (internal)
> >
> >
> >
> >"Macon Pegram" <mpdisposal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> >RE: [aspectj-users] Scoping or Weaving problem (???) with LTWin anEARon a
> >WAR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Matthew,
> >
> >Are you suggesting trying "static" weaving?  Ron Difrango recommended a
> >similar approach in some side conversations we've had.  I'm working on
> >putting together a test build script right now that explodes our EAR and
> >does the static weaving.  I've created code based concrete aspects
> >(extending the abstract Aspect and providing pointcuts).
> >
> >I've kind of bought in to the need to do static instead of load time
> >weaving
> >for my particular application, but I'd still like to understand the
> >obstacle
> >I've run into.    I've done a little classloader research and found the
> >following:
> >
> >Files in .WAR are loaded by a classloader 1 level deeper than those that
> >are
> >at the EAR level (which I expected).
> >
> >Here's the dump (Each * represents the number of classloader layers that
> >would need to be traversed to reach it):
> >
> >EAR Level class
> >---------------------
> >* weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@25b8af2( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@25b8b65, annotation:
> >simpleportal@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@1b4d2ad( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@1b4d320, annotation:
> >ApplicationClassLoader@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1)))
> >
> >** weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@1b4d2ad( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@1b4d320, annotation:
> >ApplicationClassLoader@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1))
> >
> >*** weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1)
> >
> >**** sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1
> >
> >***** sun.misc.Launcher$ExtClassLoader@1ce2ad
> >
> >WAR Level class
> >-------------------
> >* weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@266e282( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@266e309, annotation:
> >simpleportal@1_0, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@25b8af2(  finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@25b8b65, annotation:
> >simpleportal@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@1b4d2ad( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@1b4d320, annotation:
> >ApplicationClassLoader@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1))))
> >
> >** weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@25b8af2( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@25b8b65, annotation:
> >simpleportal@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@1b4d2ad( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@1b4d320, annotation:
> >ApplicationClassLoader@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1)))
> >
> >*** weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@1b4d2ad( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@1b4d320, annotation:
> >ApplicationClassLoader@, parent:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1))
> >
> >**** weblogic.utils.classloaders.GenericClassLoader@17cce51( finder:
> >weblogic.utils.classloaders.CodeGenClassFinder@17cd88e, annotation: null,
> >parent: sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1)
> >
> >***** sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@1d05a1
> >
> >****** sun.misc.Launcher$ExtClassLoader@1ce2ad
> >
> >Any thoughts on an explanation?
> >
> >Macon
> >
> > >From: Matthew Webster <matthew_webster@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: RE: [aspectj-users] Scoping or Weaving problem (???) with
> > >LTWin           anEARon a WAR
> > >Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:49:08 +0100
> > >
> > >Macon,
> > >
> > >This might be a problem with the <concrete-aspect> feature of aop.xml.
> > >Could you try defining your aspect using code instead?
> > >
> > >Matthew Webster
> > >AOSD Project
> > >Java Technology Centre, MP146
> > >IBM United Kingdom Limited
> > >Hursley Park, Winchester,  SO21 2JN, England
> > >Telephone: +44 196 2816139 (external) 246139 (internal)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >RE: [aspectj-users] Scoping or Weaving problem (???) with LTW in
>anEARon
> >a
> > >WAR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Ron,
> > >
> > >I realized shortly after posting the question that I had left some
> >details
> > >
> > >out.
> > >
> > >The JAR containing the aspect is actually at the EAR level.  The
> > >exceptions
> > >from the original posting actually occurred with that configuration.
> > >
> > >I've tried putting it at both the EAR and the WAR level  and it balked
> > >about
> > >having 2 copies of the Concrete aspect.   There is a possible (but
>nasty)
> > >solution where I could create 2 variations of the aspect jar with
> > >different
> > >concrete definitions in aop.xml.
> > >
> > >I have not tried putting it at the container level yet.  Again, an
> > >approach
> > >I'd prefer to avoid if possible, but I'm not completely adverse to it.
> > >
> > >Right now I'm trying to get an understanding of why this is happening
>and
> > >that may illuminate the way to a solution.
> > >
> > >Macon
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