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Re: [4diac-dev] Suggestion: Generate Application on System Creation

As I didn't get any objections I created a Bugzilla entry [1]  for this.  I would really love to see this improvement in 1.9.0.

Alois

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=531850

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2018 um 14:23 Uhr
> Von: "Alois Z." <alois.zoitl@xxxxxx>
> An: 4diac-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: [4diac-dev] Suggestion: Generate Application on System Creation
>
> Hi,
>  
> > I had the same thought, that it is quite annoying to manually add an application to a new system. I would like this feature to be added to the ide.
> > I would favor to add a name field to the wizard, pre-filled with a default name, and not hidden in an advanced options section.
> 
> That is a good point. Could be something like "initial application name" or only "Application Name:"?
> 
> What would be a good candidate for a default application name?
> 
> Should there be a checkbox with Create initial application checked per default?
> 
> Alois
> 
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> > Von: 4diac-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:4diac-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Alois Z.
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2018 13:06
> > An: 4diac-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Betreff: Re: [4diac-dev] Suggestion: Generate Application on System Creation
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > with the new model and using the system xml file most if the issues we had in 1.8.4 should be gone now. I did a quick test and renaming of applications worked fine. The only issue I noticed is that the editor title didn't update if the application editor of the renamed application was open. I will file a bug for that immediately.
> > 
> > Alois
> > 
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2018 um 10:54 Uhr
> > > Von: "Monika Wenger" <wenger@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > An: "4diac developer discussions" <4diac-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Betreff: Re: [4diac-dev] Suggestion: Generate Application on System 
> > > Creation
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > i would like it ... but we should better test renaming then I guess that there are still issues.
> > > 
> > > Monika
> > > 
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: 4diac-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:4diac-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Alois Z.
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 23:17
> > > An: 4diac-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Betreff: [4diac-dev] Suggestion: Generate Application on System 
> > > Creation
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > during my tests for the upcoming 1.9.0 and some Demos I did over the last months I noticed that every time that I create a new system the first step is to create an application. Recently I had the idea why not always automatically create a fist application when a system is created and open the application editor for this system. This would reduce the initial effort especially for novice users and also drive the user more towards the IEC 61499 way of application first engineering. 
> > > 
> > > The default name for such an application could be "systemname_App" or Application1. Whatever you prefer. What do you think about this, is it the right way to go?
> > > 
> > > Would power users also appreciate this feature, or should we have something in the advanced section of the system creation wizard allowing more customization of such an automatic application generation?
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Alois
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