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Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28754]

Thu, 08 May 2003 06:08

Eclipse User

Hi,

I'm cheking out Eclipse and SWT/JFace and I wonder: Can I use the
Eclipse platform to create my own plug-in enabled applications? I've
read that even the Worbench GUI is a plug-in, so to my opinion I can use
the "naked" eclipse platform and create my own GUI on top of it ( and
other plug-ins ofcourse).

Does this GUI always have to be in SWT or can it be Swing to?
Is there a "naked" eclipse framework available or do I have to strip it
myself.

What will be the impact on the license? Can I sell my plug-ins without
having to distribute the source code, if I don't addapt the Eclipse
framework, but only create things on top of it?

thanks

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28760 is a reply to message #28754]

Thu, 08 May 2003 07:56

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: pascal_rapicault.yahoo.fr

> I'm cheking out Eclipse and SWT/JFace and I wonder: Can I use the
> Eclipse platform to create my own plug-in enabled applications? I've
> read that even the Worbench GUI is a plug-in, so to my opinion I can use
> the "naked" eclipse platform and create my own GUI on top of it ( and
> other plug-ins ofcourse).
> Is there a "naked" eclipse framework available or do I have to strip it
> myself.

There is nothing available, you'll have to strip it down yourself.
Basically you'll need startup.jar, boot, runtime, xerces. This will bring
you the pluggability.

> Does this GUI always have to be in SWT or can it be Swing to?

There is no restriction. None of the plugins previously listed relies on
SWT.

PaScaL

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28764 is a reply to message #28760]

Thu, 08 May 2003 08:23

Eclipse User

Pascal Rapicault wrote:
> There is nothing available, you'll have to strip it down yourself.

Are there plans for a stripped version?

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28767 is a reply to message #28764]

Thu, 08 May 2003 08:28

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: stelian.iancu.gmx.net

Ronald Vanschoren wrote:

> Pascal Rapicault wrote:
> > There is nothing available, you'll have to strip it down yourself.
>
> Are there plans for a stripped version?

Yes, the 3.0 version will offer also a stripped version (afaik).

--
Regards,
Stelian Iancu
Linux registered user 287835

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28780 is a reply to message #28764]

Thu, 08 May 2003 08:37

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: dhill.eweb-service.com

I am trying to strip it down, does anyone have a ver 2.x stripped down
or a plugin structure that is needed to do this.,

Thanks

On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:23:31 +0200, Ronald Vanschoren
<ronald.vanschoren@wol.be> wrote:

>Pascal Rapicault wrote:
> > There is nothing available, you'll have to strip it down yourself.
>
>Are there plans for a stripped version?

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28788 is a reply to message #28764]

Thu, 08 May 2003 10:06

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: faust.acm.org

http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_p lan_2_2.html

You may be interested in the item, "Enable Eclipse to be used as a general
purpose application framework."

Randy

"Ronald Vanschoren" <ronald.vanschoren@wol.be> wrote in message
news:b9di72$pj2$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Pascal Rapicault wrote:
> > There is nothing available, you'll have to strip it down yourself.
>
> Are there plans for a stripped version?
>

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #28838 is a reply to message #28754]

Thu, 08 May 2003 14:51

Eclipse User

> What will be the impact on the license? Can I sell my plug-ins without
> having to distribute the source code, if I don't addapt the Eclipse
> framework, but only create things on top of it?

Ronald

Most of Eclipse is distributed under the Common Public License. Some
portions are distributed under other licenses. You should read the
notice.html and the about.htmls in each of the plug-ins, and all referenced
documents (e.g. cpl-v10.html) to get the full story. You may also wish to
read the Eclipse Legal and IBM CPL FAQs - there are links on the "Legal
Stuff" section of the Eclipse.org web site. You should find that these
answer your questions. If you are still in doubt after reading all the
documentations then I suggest you post here again.

Adrian

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #29551 is a reply to message #28754]

Fri, 09 May 2003 00:30

Eclipse User

Ronald Vanschoren wrote:

> Hi,

> I'm cheking out Eclipse and SWT/JFace and I wonder: Can I use the
> Eclipse platform to create my own plug-in enabled applications? I've
> read that even the Worbench GUI is a plug-in, so to my opinion I can use
> the "naked" eclipse platform and create my own GUI on top of it ( and
> other plug-ins ofcourse).

See
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php3?id=396&gr oup=eclipse.platform

for what I've done so far on creating a Base Non-IDE Application Using the
Workbench

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #29650 is a reply to message #29551]

Fri, 09 May 2003 07:53

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: dhill.eweb-service.com

This is good but even better would be a jar to overlay the file system
with the require files.

Thanks
On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:30:18 +0000 (UTC), destberg1@earthlink.net (Don
Estberg) wrote:

>Ronald Vanschoren wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>> I'm cheking out Eclipse and SWT/JFace and I wonder: Can I use the
>> Eclipse platform to create my own plug-in enabled applications? I've
>> read that even the Worbench GUI is a plug-in, so to my opinion I can use
>> the "naked" eclipse platform and create my own GUI on top of it ( and
>> other plug-ins ofcourse).
>
>See
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php3?id=396&gr oup=eclipse.platform
>
>for what I've done so far on creating a Base Non-IDE Application Using the
>Workbench
>
>
>
>

Re: Use Eclipse for your own plug-in enabled programs [message #29664 is a reply to message #28754]

Fri, 09 May 2003 11:00

Eclipse User

I've been reading a bit and I think it's possible to create an
IPlatformRunnable and start it, without the workbench beeing loaded. Has
anyone tried that? Then ofcourse all the classes of the workbench etc
are still there, but they are never loaded.. I think...

Ronald Vanschoren wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm cheking out Eclipse and SWT/JFace and I wonder: Can I use the
> Eclipse platform to create my own plug-in enabled applications? I've
> read that even the Worbench GUI is a plug-in, so to my opinion I can use
> the "naked" eclipse platform and create my own GUI on top of it ( and
> other plug-ins ofcourse).
>
> Does this GUI always have to be in SWT or can it be Swing to?
> Is there a "naked" eclipse framework available or do I have to strip it
> myself.
>
> What will be the impact on the license? Can I sell my plug-ins without
> having to distribute the source code, if I don't addapt the Eclipse
> framework, but only create things on top of it?
>
> thanks
>

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