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Re: Really sad [message #146158 is a reply to message #146149] |
Wed, 08 July 2009 22:38 |
Ed Merks Messages: 33141 Registered: July 2009 |
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Kai,
I'm pretty frustrated too, because I'd like to include a proper VE build
in Galileo Plus:
http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/06/going-gaga-over-galileo .html
Unfortunately way too much comes down to the question of who will tend
the free cash cows?
http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/07/grieving-over-death-of- cash-cow.html
I.e., why should anyone answer newsgroup questions or provide builds
when there is no return on that investment? There's something broken
and only when it gets painful enough will it get fixed.
If there were just one dollar for every download of VE, there'd be
enough dollars for a proper VE Galileo build...
Kai Schlamp wrote:
> It's really sad that this project seem to have died. Or is there a
> revival planed or going on? It would even be worth to spend some money
> for payed developers. As many of us don't have enough time to invest
> in another project, but some money probably to spend. Ok, I neither
> have the first nor the other ;-) But still sad. Even more when you
> talk to some of those Netbean guys that always tell me of their #*!#*
> Mantisse ;-)
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Kai,<br>
<br>
I'm pretty frustrated too, because I'd like to include a proper VE
build in Galileo Plus:<br>
<blockquote><a
href=" http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/06/going-gaga-over-galileo .html"> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/06/going-gaga-over-galileo .html</a><br>
</blockquote>
Unfortunately way too much comes down to the question of who will tend
the free cash cows?<br>
<blockquote><a
href=" http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/07/grieving-over-death-of- cash-cow.html"> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/07/grieving-over-death-of- cash-cow.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
I.e., why should anyone answer newsgroup questions or provide builds
when there is no return on that investment? There's something broken
and only when it gets painful enough will it get fixed.<br>
<br>
If there were just one dollar for every download of VE, there'd be
enough dollars for a proper VE Galileo build...<br>
<br>
<br>
Kai Schlamp wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:h333lq$80n$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">It's
really sad that this project seem to have died. Or is there a revival
planed or going on? It would even be worth to spend some money for
payed developers. As many of us don't have enough time to invest in
another project, but some money probably to spend. Ok, I neither have
the first nor the other ;-) But still sad. Even more when you talk to
some of those Netbean guys that always tell me of their #*!#* Mantisse
;-)
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Ed Merks
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Re: Really sad [message #617377 is a reply to message #146149] |
Wed, 08 July 2009 22:38 |
Ed Merks Messages: 33141 Registered: July 2009 |
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Kai,
I'm pretty frustrated too, because I'd like to include a proper VE build
in Galileo Plus:
http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/06/going-gaga-over-galileo .html
Unfortunately way too much comes down to the question of who will tend
the free cash cows?
http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/07/grieving-over-death-of- cash-cow.html
I.e., why should anyone answer newsgroup questions or provide builds
when there is no return on that investment? There's something broken
and only when it gets painful enough will it get fixed.
If there were just one dollar for every download of VE, there'd be
enough dollars for a proper VE Galileo build...
Kai Schlamp wrote:
> It's really sad that this project seem to have died. Or is there a
> revival planed or going on? It would even be worth to spend some money
> for payed developers. As many of us don't have enough time to invest
> in another project, but some money probably to spend. Ok, I neither
> have the first nor the other ;-) But still sad. Even more when you
> talk to some of those Netbean guys that always tell me of their #*!#*
> Mantisse ;-)
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Kai,<br>
<br>
I'm pretty frustrated too, because I'd like to include a proper VE
build in Galileo Plus:<br>
<blockquote><a
href=" http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/06/going-gaga-over-galileo .html"> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/06/going-gaga-over-galileo .html</a><br>
</blockquote>
Unfortunately way too much comes down to the question of who will tend
the free cash cows?<br>
<blockquote><a
href=" http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/07/grieving-over-death-of- cash-cow.html"> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2009/07/grieving-over-death-of- cash-cow.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
I.e., why should anyone answer newsgroup questions or provide builds
when there is no return on that investment? There's something broken
and only when it gets painful enough will it get fixed.<br>
<br>
If there were just one dollar for every download of VE, there'd be
enough dollars for a proper VE Galileo build...<br>
<br>
<br>
Kai Schlamp wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:h333lq$80n$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">It's
really sad that this project seem to have died. Or is there a revival
planed or going on? It would even be worth to spend some money for
payed developers. As many of us don't have enough time to invest in
another project, but some money probably to spend. Ok, I neither have
the first nor the other ;-) But still sad. Even more when you talk to
some of those Netbean guys that always tell me of their #*!#* Mantisse
;-)
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Ed Merks
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Re: Really sad [message #617379 is a reply to message #146167] |
Thu, 09 July 2009 15:12 |
Ed Merks Messages: 33141 Registered: July 2009 |
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Yves/Nick,
No one seems to be monitoring this newsgroup and that makes the project
appear dead. As you can see, there are problems with installing VE with
Galileo levels of WTP/EMF. Is that something that will/could be addressed?
Krzysztof Kowalczyk wrote:
> Ed Merks pisze:
>> Kai,
>>
>> I'm pretty frustrated too, because I'd like to include a proper VE
>> build in Galileo Plus
>
> VE news group seems not to be used by VE commiters
> http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/yvesyang/2009/06/26/eclipse-ve- gets-revived/
> maybe they should be asked directly?
>
> Regards,
> Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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