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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #71741 is a reply to message #71551] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 15:48   |
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Originally posted by: jkrause.innoopract.com
Hi Rahul,
Thank you for the nice words. Your help is very welcome. In which area
would you be interested in contributing? As an early adopter or developer?
Cheers,
Jochen
rahul wrote:
> Hi
> i hav exp. on struts , SWT, Eclipse & AJAX (RoR)
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> i think that Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) would be a really very nice thing
> , u should start it, would help the java developer community use AJAX
> effectively, maintain the position & utility of Eclipse in web development.
> i would feel honoured if i may be of any help!
>
> regards
> rahul
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #71779 is a reply to message #71741] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 20:20 |
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Originally posted by: michael.illgner.email.de
Hi,
I have just seen the quite impressive demo/talk on the JAX 2006 and I
have some questions left ...
1. Is it possible to write a RAP application without deep knowledge of
Javascript, CSS etc.?
2. On the other site, it is possible to customize the generated
HTML/JS/CSS code to achieve a special layout or CI requirements ?
3. I have understand that a RAP application is build on on top of the
standard eclipse frameworks. How about standard eclipse features, like
the standard menus (Help, About, Update), preference pages, wizard
dialogs, update manager etc. Will these features ported to RAP ?
Michael
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #71882 is a reply to message #71779] |
Fri, 12 May 2006 15:08 |
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Originally posted by: rherrmann.innoopract.com
Hi Michael,
thanks for the compliments and for attending the talk. Now to Your
questions:
1. Yes the 'application developer' does not need any knowledge about web
technologies (HTML, JS, etc). He/she will only work with a pure Java API.
2. Yes, there are various ways to influence how components are rendered.
This ranges from changing some default colour settings or changing the
components' style attribute to writing Your own rendering kits (which in
turn needs thorough knowledge of HTML, etc.)
3. You are right, we plan to enable most of what is available within an
RCP application for web applications. But be aware that RAP is still a
proposal.
Cheers
Rüdiger
Michael Illgner wrote:
> Hi,
> I have just seen the quite impressive demo/talk on the JAX 2006 and I
> have some questions left ...
>
> 1. Is it possible to write a RAP application without deep knowledge of
> Javascript, CSS etc.?
> 2. On the other site, it is possible to customize the generated
> HTML/JS/CSS code to achieve a special layout or CI requirements ?
>
> 3. I have understand that a RAP application is build on on top of the
> standard eclipse frameworks. How about standard eclipse features, like
> the standard menus (Help, About, Update), preference pages, wizard
> dialogs, update manager etc. Will these features ported to RAP ?
>
>
> Michael
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #72244 is a reply to message #72122] |
Thu, 25 May 2006 14:48 |
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Originally posted by: jkrause.innoopract.com
Hi Tal,
We plan to move on quickly. Our creation review is not yet scheduled,
but I hope that we can get past the creation review in the next couple
of weeks (3 or 4). As soon as we are accepted we will provide a src
download.
Cheers,
Jochen
Tal Beno wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I wonder how far are you from turning this wonderful intiative\proposal
> into an eclipse project? How far are we from being able to start playing
> around with it?
>
> Thanks!
> Tal
>
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #72333 is a reply to message #72244] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 20:32 |
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Originally posted by: jkrause.innoopract.com
I have been advised that there is an Eclipse legal review that needs to
be passed before code can be made available on eclipse.org.
We have already started the process for the legal review. It seems that
some other projects have chosen to make sources available on other
websites until the legal clearing is finished, we will do the same.
Jochen
Jochen Krause wrote:
> Hi Tal,
>
> We plan to move on quickly. Our creation review is not yet scheduled,
> but I hope that we can get past the creation review in the next couple
> of weeks (3 or 4). As soon as we are accepted we will provide a src
> download.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jochen
>
>
> Tal Beno wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wonder how far are you from turning this wonderful
>> intiative\proposal into an eclipse project? How far are we from being
>> able to start playing around with it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tal
>>
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #72458 is a reply to message #72244] |
Tue, 06 June 2006 23:09 |
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Originally posted by: g.tummarello.gmail.com
Jochen,
we at DBIn (http://dbin.org) are really looking forward to see RAP
developing. So we would definitely be an early adopters. We might even
be a sponsor actually.. dbin will receive EU funds soon for a project
starting in october so it might be possible that we could "chip in" a bit.
I think its very important that you guys manage to have "perspective"
working as well as individual views. Eclipse enable for multiple
workbenches already. I guess each browser session could be mapped to one
such workbench possibly. The very interesting idea would really be to
make it as direct as possible to port (and keep in sync) an existing RCP
applicaiton like DBin to a web based approach. If i understand right
this is the goal of the project right?
Sincerely
Giovanni
Jochen Krause wrote:
> Hi Tal,
>
> We plan to move on quickly. Our creation review is not yet scheduled,
> but I hope that we can get past the creation review in the next couple
> of weeks (3 or 4). As soon as we are accepted we will provide a src
> download.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jochen
>
>
> Tal Beno wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wonder how far are you from turning this wonderful
>> intiative\proposal into an eclipse project? How far are we from being
>> able to start playing around with it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tal
>>
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #72495 is a reply to message #72244] |
Sat, 10 June 2006 19:10 |
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Originally posted by: tbeno.mercury.com
Great! With Google now out there I am really hopeful to see you guys
offering another and even better alternative. Good luck and we will be
happy to try it out as soon as you have something ready.
Thanks!
Tal (senior architect at Mercury)
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #73036 is a reply to message #72333] |
Thu, 13 July 2006 22:44 |
 Dan Connelly
Messages: 66
Registered: July 2009 |
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Jochen:
Is the early access to RAP source available yet?
In particular, I am trying to assess the difficulties I would face when
convering an EMF RCP application (standard example being Library.Editor)
to a web app using RAP/W4T. When I looked at this earlier under W4T,
the adaptations of the JFace Providers to W4T Providers looked a bit
awkward.
Will standard JFace providers (Library.Edit) be immediately useful in
RAP 0.1?
Also, when can I expect the first Eclipse download for RAP? (Not
soon, no problem. I will just take the next few weeks at the lake.)
-- Dan
Jochen Krause wrote:
> I have been advised that there is an Eclipse legal review that needs
> to be passed before code can be made available on eclipse.org.
>
> We have already started the process for the legal review. It seems
> that some other projects have chosen to make sources available on
> other websites until the legal clearing is finished, we will do the same.
>
> Jochen
>
> Jochen Krause wrote:
>
>> Hi Tal,
>>
>> We plan to move on quickly. Our creation review is not yet scheduled,
>> but I hope that we can get past the creation review in the next
>> couple of weeks (3 or 4). As soon as we are accepted we will provide
>> a src download.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jochen
>>
>>
>> Tal Beno wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I wonder how far are you from turning this wonderful
>>> intiative\proposal into an eclipse project? How far are we from
>>> being able to start playing around with it?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tal
>>>
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-15"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
<title></title>
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<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
<font face="Arial">Jochen:<br>
<br>
Is the early access to RAP source available yet?<br>
<br>
In particular, I am trying to assess the difficulties I would face when
convering an EMF RCP application (standard example being
Library.Editor) to a web app using RAP/W4T.
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #600319 is a reply to message #71741] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 20:20 |
Michael Illgner
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009 |
Member |
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Hi,
I have just seen the quite impressive demo/talk on the JAX 2006 and I
have some questions left ...
1. Is it possible to write a RAP application without deep knowledge of
Javascript, CSS etc.?
2. On the other site, it is possible to customize the generated
HTML/JS/CSS code to achieve a special layout or CI requirements ?
3. I have understand that a RAP application is build on on top of the
standard eclipse frameworks. How about standard eclipse features, like
the standard menus (Help, About, Update), preference pages, wizard
dialogs, update manager etc. Will these features ported to RAP ?
Michael
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #600385 is a reply to message #71779] |
Fri, 12 May 2006 15:08 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: rherrmann.innoopract.com
Hi Michael,
thanks for the compliments and for attending the talk. Now to Your
questions:
1. Yes the 'application developer' does not need any knowledge about web
technologies (HTML, JS, etc). He/she will only work with a pure Java API.
2. Yes, there are various ways to influence how components are rendered.
This ranges from changing some default colour settings or changing the
components' style attribute to writing Your own rendering kits (which in
turn needs thorough knowledge of HTML, etc.)
3. You are right, we plan to enable most of what is available within an
RCP application for web applications. But be aware that RAP is still a
proposal.
Cheers
Rüdiger
Michael Illgner wrote:
> Hi,
> I have just seen the quite impressive demo/talk on the JAX 2006 and I
> have some questions left ...
>
> 1. Is it possible to write a RAP application without deep knowledge of
> Javascript, CSS etc.?
> 2. On the other site, it is possible to customize the generated
> HTML/JS/CSS code to achieve a special layout or CI requirements ?
>
> 3. I have understand that a RAP application is build on on top of the
> standard eclipse frameworks. How about standard eclipse features, like
> the standard menus (Help, About, Update), preference pages, wizard
> dialogs, update manager etc. Will these features ported to RAP ?
>
>
> Michael
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #600690 is a reply to message #72244] |
Sat, 10 June 2006 19:10 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: tbeno.mercury.com
Great! With Google now out there I am really hopeful to see you guys
offering another and even better alternative. Good luck and we will be
happy to try it out as soon as you have something ready.
Thanks!
Tal (senior architect at Mercury)
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| Re: Proposal for Rich AJAX Platform (RAP) [message #600903 is a reply to message #72333] |
Thu, 13 July 2006 22:44 |
Dan Connelly
Messages: 66
Registered: July 2009 |
Member |
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Jochen:
Is the early access to RAP source available yet?
In particular, I am trying to assess the difficulties I would face when
convering an EMF RCP application (standard example being Library.Editor)
to a web app using RAP/W4T. When I looked at this earlier under W4T,
the adaptations of the JFace Providers to W4T Providers looked a bit
awkward.
Will standard JFace providers (Library.Edit) be immediately useful in
RAP 0.1?
Also, when can I expect the first Eclipse download for RAP? (Not
soon, no problem. I will just take the next few weeks at the lake.)
-- Dan
Jochen Krause wrote:
> I have been advised that there is an Eclipse legal review that needs
> to be passed before code can be made available on eclipse.org.
>
> We have already started the process for the legal review. It seems
> that some other projects have chosen to make sources available on
> other websites until the legal clearing is finished, we will do the same.
>
> Jochen
>
> Jochen Krause wrote:
>
>> Hi Tal,
>>
>> We plan to move on quickly. Our creation review is not yet scheduled,
>> but I hope that we can get past the creation review in the next
>> couple of weeks (3 or 4). As soon as we are accepted we will provide
>> a src download.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jochen
>>
>>
>> Tal Beno wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I wonder how far are you from turning this wonderful
>>> intiative\proposal into an eclipse project? How far are we from
>>> being able to start playing around with it?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tal
>>>
--------------070903090309020100050604
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-15"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
<font face="Arial">Jochen:<br>
<br>
Is the early access to RAP source available yet?<br>
<br>
In particular, I am trying to assess the difficulties I would face when
convering an EMF RCP application (standard example being
Library.Editor) to a web app using RAP/W4T.
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