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| Re: Vision behind Rich Ajax Platform [message #54812 is a reply to message #53897] |
Tue, 23 October 2007 20:01   |
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Originally posted by: jkrause.innoopract.com
Hi Simon,
Glad you like RAP! My comments are inlined:
Simon wrote:
> Hi guys, I just ran the RAP 1.0 demo, and it's very exciting to see how
> web applications can begin leveraging the power of the Eclipse
> technologies, OSGi, and Ajax.
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> I want to pose the question about the greater vision for this project.
> RAP has demonstrated to me more than just been another Ajax toolkit. I
> see it as a key enabler for developing modular web applications that can
> easily leverage the life cycle management and service registry offered
> by OSGi and Eclipse Equinox. Is the vision for RAP and Equinox to be
> eventually offered as a portal server alternative?
Regarding the vision please see the last paragraph. With respect to
portals: It seems that portals are used for very diverse use cases, and
only some of them are applicable for RAP (e.g. pure information portals
will never be a stronghold of RAP). However, Equinox can run standard
webapps and there is a potential for providing integration that could be
beyond current portal functionality. But this is more an Equinox than a
RAP topic.
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> With RAP and Equinox, I can envision the Eclipse platform evolving into
> a web dashboard, where each user can customize the applications and
> services on his/her personal "online workspace".
The online workspace is something that could be very useful and is in
scope of RAP. You can already use it now, but there are still a few quirks.
> Just as the recent
> buzz surrounding Facebook as a platform for distributing and hosting
> applications, RAP and Equinox could offer a standard and robust
> framework to implement other similar "online application platforms". Is
> this also part of the greater vision? Are there companies planning to
> offer an application server using these technologies?
I am not aware of an "app server" offering around those lines. BEA has
introduced an offering called Micro-Services, which provides OSGi at the
app server component level and I think has great potential.
We think that RAP and Equinox (OSGi) will enable new kinds of modular
Software as a Service offerings. This is complemented by many other
pieces, RCP is one, provisioning, persistence, SOA and a couple of other
are underway. So the big picture is Equinox as a runtime environment
with RAP being an important component for modular ajax apps, and the
whole stack of other technologies that you need to build applications as
OSGi bundles.
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> It's also really cool to see how applications developed for RAP can be
> easily redeployed as RCP apps for the desktop. Anyways, much kudos to
> the RAP team for a great project!
>
> Simon Chen
Jochen Krause
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| Re: Vision behind Rich Ajax Platform [message #55944 is a reply to message #54812] |
Fri, 26 October 2007 23:18 |
 Simon Chen
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009 |
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Jochen Krause wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Glad you like RAP! My comments are inlined:
>
> Simon wrote:
>> Hi guys, I just ran the RAP 1.0 demo, and it's very exciting to see
>> how web applications can begin leveraging the power of the Eclipse
>> technologies, OSGi, and Ajax.
>>
>> I want to pose the question about the greater vision for this project.
>> RAP has demonstrated to me more than just been another Ajax toolkit.
>> I see it as a key enabler for developing modular web applications that
>> can easily leverage the life cycle management and service registry
>> offered by OSGi and Eclipse Equinox. Is the vision for RAP and
>> Equinox to be eventually offered as a portal server alternative?
>
> Regarding the vision please see the last paragraph. With respect to
> portals: It seems that portals are used for very diverse use cases, and
> only some of them are applicable for RAP (e.g. pure information portals
> will never be a stronghold of RAP). However, Equinox can run standard
> webapps and there is a potential for providing integration that could be
> beyond current portal functionality. But this is more an Equinox than a
> RAP topic.
>
>>
>> With RAP and Equinox, I can envision the Eclipse platform evolving
>> into a web dashboard, where each user can customize the applications
>> and services on his/her personal "online workspace".
>
> The online workspace is something that could be very useful and is in
> scope of RAP. You can already use it now, but there are still a few quirks.
>
>
>> Just as the recent buzz surrounding Facebook as a platform for
>> distributing and hosting applications, RAP and Equinox could offer a
>> standard and robust framework to implement other similar "online
>> application platforms". Is this also part of the greater vision? Are
>> there companies planning to offer an application server using these
>> technologies?
>
> I am not aware of an "app server" offering around those lines. BEA has
> introduced an offering called Micro-Services, which provides OSGi at the
> app server component level and I think has great potential.
>
> We think that RAP and Equinox (OSGi) will enable new kinds of modular
> Software as a Service offerings. This is complemented by many other
> pieces, RCP is one, provisioning, persistence, SOA and a couple of other
> are underway. So the big picture is Equinox as a runtime environment
> with RAP being an important component for modular ajax apps, and the
> whole stack of other technologies that you need to build applications as
> OSGi bundles.
>
>>
>> It's also really cool to see how applications developed for RAP can be
>> easily redeployed as RCP apps for the desktop. Anyways, much kudos to
>> the RAP team for a great project!
>>
>> Simon Chen
>
> Jochen Krause
Hi Jochen,
Thanks for your responses. It would be interesting to see how RAP
evolves and scales. From your response, I take that in an enterprise
environment, RAP is probably more suitable for developing modular
administrative services for managing enterprise applications and
resources.
Regards,
Simon
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