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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #488821 is a reply to message #488215] |
Wed, 30 September 2009 12:29 |
Mark D-B Messages: 188 Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi Ray,
Sorry, I didn't spot that this new Eclipse forum had displayed another space that wasn't in the original text - looks like we may have to try code blocks for URLs to avoid that problem.
Having the extra Subversive content will do no harm at all - you will need that if you want to use SVN inside the Eclipse IDE anyway.
Do you mean from your last question that you have not tried running 0.7 yet? I would think it would be easier to get started with that before embarking on a build. The developers have not yet deployed an all-in-one for anything later than 0.7.
We have been using 0.7 in anger for a few months now, based on the downloads available at
http://osee.microdoc.com/node/2
The only immediate need we have to move forward is related to my enquiry about e-mail on the forum, where 0.8.2 will offer a more straightforward solution. This will only really matter if you are using ATS with a larger team.
If I misunderstood, and you have tried running 0.7 and want/need to move to 0.8, the next step is to run the PDE build. How to do so is described in the instructions you were looking at before - carry on through the "If Using Windows", "SVN Checkout", and "Build", sections.
Note that the PDE build does not complete for me at the moment but Ryan is sorting that out.
All the best,
Mark
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #489070 is a reply to message #487141] |
Thu, 01 October 2009 12:37 |
Ray Joseph Messages: 87 Registered: July 2009 |
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Mark,
Thank you for responding. I am sorry I was not clear. I will try to do better.
> Do you mean from your last question that you have not tried running 0.7 yet? I would think it would be easier to get started with that before embarking on a build. The developers have not yet deployed an all-in-one for anything later than 0.7.
I have run 0.7. I thought that there was an all-in-one for 0.8. I do not want to bite off more than I can chew; I am interested in learning how to use the tool. So if 0.7 is the latest stable version, I am there.
In the past, I was not able to get 0.7 working. I think that I have it now. Thus, I would like to test if. But if there is no formal test process, I would like to run it through some comprehensive demos.
> We have been using 0.7 in anger for a few months now, based on the downloads available at
>http://osee.microdoc.com/node/2
I did not use the microdoc. That was what I attempted the last time and I couldn't get it to complete. This time I used your instructions and it completed and looks good.
I don't think I need to move to 0.8. From one of Roberts responses, I thought 0.7 had problems relative to the instructions on how to install it and that 0.8 would be out and aligned with installation instructions. But, from what you have said and after following your instructions, it looks like 0.7 is running.
I just need to learn how to use it. I have been through the general instructions on how to use Eclipse.
I would like to find a tutorial (one or more) that will guide me through the functionality of OSEE 0.7.
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Ray
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #489652 is a reply to message #487141] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 13:39 |
Mark D-B Messages: 188 Registered: July 2009 |
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Okay Ray. I'd say the best place for you to start would be the tutorial that the Ryan, Don, and Roberto presented at EclipseCON earlier in the year. This can be accessed from the OSEE Tutorial page
http://wiki.eclipse.org/OSEE/Tutorial
via the "this presentation" link.
With that, and the 0.7 microdoc installer, you should be able to get Define up and running, use the demo projects to understand what OSEE can do for your organisation, and then go on to look at ATS.
I started with these, then customised the database for our needs, and we have been running live with OSEE on a couple of projects to see if OSEE is the right way for us to go.
It helps if you have an idea of what you want your tools to do. In our case, we used a heavily customised version of IBM(Telelogic) DOORS for a joint-venture project in the past. There are reasons why DOORS is not ideal for us for the future, so I am looking to OSEE to provide the same functionality, though not necessarily in the same way, as I know benefits the business.
Mark
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #489971 is a reply to message #489953] |
Tue, 06 October 2009 16:57 |
Mark D-B Messages: 188 Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi Ray,
My earlier instructions will get you to the point of being able to build OSEE. You will then have to build both the client and the server before you are able to run it.
To just run it for evaluation, the all-in-one is much easier.
Please remember that OSEE is a client-server application. You need three things running to be able to test - a database (PostreSQL in our case), the application server, and a client.
For a real-world use case, the application server (typically running on the same machine as the database) serves many clients. For test purposes, we run all three on the same machine. However, the client won't connect to the database without the application server running.
So, if you have PostgreSQL and the client from microdoc running, you are nearly there.
I'll presume you downloaded and unzipped the app server, so you have a folder called app_server_0.7.0-2009-02-19_08_49. Go into that and copy runServer-PgSqlLocalAll.sh to runServer-PgSqlLocalAll.bat. It should contain
java -Dosee.log.default=INFO -Dorg.osgi.service.http.port=8089 -Dosee.connection.info.uri="C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\My Documents\OSEE\connection.xml" -Dosee.db.connection.id=OSEE -Dosgi.compatibility.bootdelegation=true -Xmx512m -Dequinox.ds.debug=true -jar org.eclipse.osgi_3.4.0.v20080326.jar -console
except, in your case, change the location of connection.xml to somewhere on your machine.
Create connection.xml with the following content
<DbConnection>
<DatabaseInfo id="postgresqlInfo">
<DatabaseHome key="#DBHOME#"/>
<DatabaseName key="#DBNAME#" value="OSEE" />
<DatabaseType key="#TYPE#" value="postgresql" />
<Prefix key="#PREFIX#" value="jdbc:postgresql" />
<UserName key="#USERNAME#" value="osee" />
<Password key="#PASSWORD#" value="osee" />
<Host key="#HOST#" value="@AvailableDbServices.hostAddress" />
<Port key="#PORT#" value="@AvailableDbServices.port" />
</DatabaseInfo>
<ConnectionDescription id="postgresql" >
<Driver>org.postgresql.Driver</Driver>
<Url>#PREFIX#://#HOST#:#PORT#/#DBHOME##DBNAME#</Url>
</ConnectionDescription>
<AvailableDbServices>
<Server id="OSEE" dbInfo="postgresqlInfo"
hostAddress="localhost" port="5432"
connectsWith="postgresql" isProduction="false" />
</AvailableDbServices>
</DbConnection>
As long as you created the PostgreSQL database with the users and passwords given in the instructions, that should be it! Just run runServer-PgSqlLocalAll.bat and the app server should be running.
Please let me know how you get on.
All the best,
Mark
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #575739 is a reply to message #575709] |
Wed, 30 September 2009 12:29 |
Mark D-B Messages: 188 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Hi Ray,
Sorry, I didn't spot that this new Eclipse forum had displayed another space that wasn't in the original text - looks like we may have to try code blocks for URLs to avoid that problem.
Having the extra Subversive content will do no harm at all - you will need that if you want to use SVN inside the Eclipse IDE anyway.
Do you mean from your last question that you have not tried running 0.7 yet? I would think it would be easier to get started with that before embarking on a build. The developers have not yet deployed an all-in-one for anything later than 0.7.
We have been using 0.7 in anger for a few months now, based on the downloads available at
http://osee.microdoc.com/node/2
The only immediate need we have to move forward is related to my enquiry about e-mail on the forum, where 0.8.2 will offer a more straightforward solution. This will only really matter if you are using ATS with a larger team.
If I misunderstood, and you have tried running 0.7 and want/need to move to 0.8, the next step is to run the PDE build. How to do so is described in the instructions you were looking at before - carry on through the "If Using Windows", "SVN Checkout", and "Build", sections.
Note that the PDE build does not complete for me at the moment but Ryan is sorting that out.
All the best,
Mark
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #575758 is a reply to message #487141] |
Thu, 01 October 2009 12:37 |
Ray Joseph Messages: 87 Registered: July 2009 |
Member |
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Mark,
Thank you for responding. I am sorry I was not clear. I will try to do better.
> Do you mean from your last question that you have not tried running 0.7 yet? I would think it would be easier to get started with that before embarking on a build. The developers have not yet deployed an all-in-one for anything later than 0.7.
I have run 0.7. I thought that there was an all-in-one for 0.8. I do not want to bite off more than I can chew; I am interested in learning how to use the tool. So if 0.7 is the latest stable version, I am there.
In the past, I was not able to get 0.7 working. I think that I have it now. Thus, I would like to test if. But if there is no formal test process, I would like to run it through some comprehensive demos.
> We have been using 0.7 in anger for a few months now, based on the downloads available at
>http://osee.microdoc.com/node/2
I did not use the microdoc. That was what I attempted the last time and I couldn't get it to complete. This time I used your instructions and it completed and looks good.
I don't think I need to move to 0.8. From one of Roberts responses, I thought 0.7 had problems relative to the instructions on how to install it and that 0.8 would be out and aligned with installation instructions. But, from what you have said and after following your instructions, it looks like 0.7 is running.
I just need to learn how to use it. I have been through the general instructions on how to use Eclipse.
I would like to find a tutorial (one or more) that will guide me through the functionality of OSEE 0.7.
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Ray
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #575769 is a reply to message #487141] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 13:39 |
Mark D-B Messages: 188 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Okay Ray. I'd say the best place for you to start would be the tutorial that the Ryan, Don, and Roberto presented at EclipseCON earlier in the year. This can be accessed from the OSEE Tutorial page
http://wiki.eclipse.org/OSEE/Tutorial
via the "this presentation" link.
With that, and the 0.7 microdoc installer, you should be able to get Define up and running, use the demo projects to understand what OSEE can do for your organisation, and then go on to look at ATS.
I started with these, then customised the database for our needs, and we have been running live with OSEE on a couple of projects to see if OSEE is the right way for us to go.
It helps if you have an idea of what you want your tools to do. In our case, we used a heavily customised version of IBM(Telelogic) DOORS for a joint-venture project in the past. There are reasons why DOORS is not ideal for us for the future, so I am looking to OSEE to provide the same functionality, though not necessarily in the same way, as I know benefits the business.
Mark
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Re: Problem Trying a New Installation [message #575819 is a reply to message #575800] |
Tue, 06 October 2009 16:57 |
Mark D-B Messages: 188 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Hi Ray,
My earlier instructions will get you to the point of being able to build OSEE. You will then have to build both the client and the server before you are able to run it.
To just run it for evaluation, the all-in-one is much easier.
Please remember that OSEE is a client-server application. You need three things running to be able to test - a database (PostreSQL in our case), the application server, and a client.
For a real-world use case, the application server (typically running on the same machine as the database) serves many clients. For test purposes, we run all three on the same machine. However, the client won't connect to the database without the application server running.
So, if you have PostgreSQL and the client from microdoc running, you are nearly there.
I'll presume you downloaded and unzipped the app server, so you have a folder called app_server_0.7.0-2009-02-19_08_49. Go into that and copy runServer-PgSqlLocalAll.sh to runServer-PgSqlLocalAll.bat. It should contain
java -Dosee.log.default=INFO -Dorg.osgi.service.http.port=8089 -Dosee.connection.info.uri="C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\My Documents\OSEE\connection.xml" -Dosee.db.connection.id=OSEE -Dosgi.compatibility.bootdelegation=true -Xmx512m -Dequinox.ds.debug=true -jar org.eclipse.osgi_3.4.0.v20080326.jar -console
except, in your case, change the location of connection.xml to somewhere on your machine.
Create connection.xml with the following content
<DbConnection>
<DatabaseInfo id="postgresqlInfo">
<DatabaseHome key="#DBHOME#"/>
<DatabaseName key="#DBNAME#" value="OSEE" />
<DatabaseType key="#TYPE#" value="postgresql" />
<Prefix key="#PREFIX#" value="jdbc:postgresql" />
<UserName key="#USERNAME#" value="osee" />
<Password key="#PASSWORD#" value="osee" />
<Host key="#HOST#" value="@AvailableDbServices.hostAddress" />
<Port key="#PORT#" value="@AvailableDbServices.port" />
</DatabaseInfo>
<ConnectionDescription id="postgresql" >
<Driver>org.postgresql.Driver</Driver>
<Url>#PREFIX#://#HOST#:#PORT#/#DBHOME##DBNAME#</Url>
</ConnectionDescription>
<AvailableDbServices>
<Server id="OSEE" dbInfo="postgresqlInfo"
hostAddress="localhost" port="5432"
connectsWith="postgresql" isProduction="false" />
</AvailableDbServices>
</DbConnection>
As long as you created the PostgreSQL database with the users and passwords given in the instructions, that should be it! Just run runServer-PgSqlLocalAll.bat and the app server should be running.
Please let me know how you get on.
All the best,
Mark
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