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Re: Is UML2Tools right for me? [message #472165 is a reply to message #472160] |
Fri, 21 December 2007 16:15 |
Dave Carlson Messages: 402 Registered: July 2009 |
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Hello Tatiana,
I saw a message sent to the gmf-dev mail list this morning, with a new =
feature where users can customize the diagram palette to hide tools that =
are not needed. Would this be available in future releases of the UML2 =
editors? If so, it may be helpful to the the originator of this thread, =
and to my users, who use standard UML diagrams but would like to hide =
some of the palette choices to avoid confusion by business modelers.
Dave
"Tatiana Fesenko" <tatiana.fesenko@borland.com> wrote in message =
news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org...
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> I my opinion, UML2Tools editor customization will take more resources =
than=20
> new diagram editor generation.
>=20
>> UML2Tools. However, I'm concerned that the class and state machine
>> editors are too complex for my users. The users are electrical
>> engineers, not software engineers.
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Tatiana,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I saw a message sent to the gmf-dev =
mail list this=20
morning, with a new feature where users can customize the diagram =
palette to=20
hide tools that are not needed. Would this be available in future =
releases=20
of the UML2 editors? If so, it may be helpful to the the =
originator of=20
this thread, and to my users, who use standard UML diagrams but would =
like to=20
hide some of the palette choices to avoid confusion by business=20
modelers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Tatiana Fesenko" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:tatiana.fesenko@borland.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>tatiana.fesenko@borland.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>> wrote=20
in message </FONT><A=20
href=3D"news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org</FONT></A><FON=
T=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> I my opinion, UML2Tools =
editor=20
customization will take more resources than <BR>> new diagram editor=20
generation.<BR>> <BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>> UML2Tools. However, I'm =
concerned that the=20
class and state machine<BR>>> editors are too complex for my =
users. The=20
users are electrical<BR>>> engineers, not software=20
engineers.<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
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Re: Is UML2Tools right for me? [message #472168 is a reply to message #472165] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 13:29 |
Tatiana Fesenko Messages: 530 Registered: July 2009 |
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Hello,
Dave, are you talking about ' http://wiki.eclipse.org/GMF_New_and_Noteworthy#Customize_Pal ette_Capability_in_the_GMF_Runtime'
feature?
This is a GMF-Runtime functionality, therefore it will be available in UML2Tools
diagram editors.
Diagram editor customization is not only palette reduction. It also includes
useless compartment hiding and so on. It is also possible to do customization
using existing code. But GMF is under continious development, it provides
new powerful features every milestone. Code generated by GMF is changed too.
Decision to customize existing code causes permanent dependency on UML2Tools.
It will take a lot of efforts.
Every company has its own requirements and rules. Every developer has to
rely on his/her experience and specific conditions. If I developed this diagram
editor I would generate it from scratch using GMF. Believe me, GMF is a very
nice tool to use. It has good documentation and good wiki - http://wiki.eclipse.org/GMF.
But if you decide to take UML2Tools as a base, feel free to ask the questions
here =)
Good luck,
Tatiana.
> Hello Tatiana,
> I saw a message sent to the gmf-dev mail list this morning, with a new
> feature where users can customize the diagram palette to hide tools
> that are not needed. Would this be available in future releases of
> the UML2 editors? If so, it may be helpful to the the originator of
> this thread, and to my users, who use standard UML diagrams but would
> like to hide some of the palette choices to avoid confusion by
> business modelers.
> Dave
>
> "Tatiana Fesenko" <tatiana.fesenko@borland.com> wrote in message
> news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org...
>
>> I my opinion, UML2Tools editor customization will take more resources
>> than new diagram editor generation.
>>
>>> UML2Tools. However, I'm concerned that the class and state machine
>>> editors are too complex for my users. The users are electrical
>>> engineers, not software engineers.
>>>
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Re: Is UML2Tools right for me? [message #614530 is a reply to message #472160] |
Fri, 21 December 2007 16:15 |
Dave Carlson Messages: 402 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Hello Tatiana,
I saw a message sent to the gmf-dev mail list this morning, with a new =
feature where users can customize the diagram palette to hide tools that =
are not needed. Would this be available in future releases of the UML2 =
editors? If so, it may be helpful to the the originator of this thread, =
and to my users, who use standard UML diagrams but would like to hide =
some of the palette choices to avoid confusion by business modelers.
Dave
"Tatiana Fesenko" <tatiana.fesenko@borland.com> wrote in message =
news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org...
>=20
> I my opinion, UML2Tools editor customization will take more resources =
than=20
> new diagram editor generation.
>=20
>> UML2Tools. However, I'm concerned that the class and state machine
>> editors are too complex for my users. The users are electrical
>> engineers, not software engineers.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Hello=20
Tatiana,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I saw a message sent to the gmf-dev =
mail list this=20
morning, with a new feature where users can customize the diagram =
palette to=20
hide tools that are not needed. Would this be available in future =
releases=20
of the UML2 editors? If so, it may be helpful to the the =
originator of=20
this thread, and to my users, who use standard UML diagrams but would =
like to=20
hide some of the palette choices to avoid confusion by business=20
modelers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Tatiana Fesenko" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:tatiana.fesenko@borland.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>tatiana.fesenko@borland.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>> wrote=20
in message </FONT><A=20
href=3D"news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org</FONT></A><FON=
T=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> I my opinion, UML2Tools =
editor=20
customization will take more resources than <BR>> new diagram editor=20
generation.<BR>> <BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>> UML2Tools. However, I'm =
concerned that the=20
class and state machine<BR>>> editors are too complex for my =
users. The=20
users are electrical<BR>>> engineers, not software=20
engineers.<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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Re: Is UML2Tools right for me? [message #614533 is a reply to message #472165] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 13:29 |
Tatiana Fesenko Messages: 530 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Hello,
Dave, are you talking about ' http://wiki.eclipse.org/GMF_New_and_Noteworthy#Customize_Pal ette_Capability_in_the_GMF_Runtime'
feature?
This is a GMF-Runtime functionality, therefore it will be available in UML2Tools
diagram editors.
Diagram editor customization is not only palette reduction. It also includes
useless compartment hiding and so on. It is also possible to do customization
using existing code. But GMF is under continious development, it provides
new powerful features every milestone. Code generated by GMF is changed too.
Decision to customize existing code causes permanent dependency on UML2Tools.
It will take a lot of efforts.
Every company has its own requirements and rules. Every developer has to
rely on his/her experience and specific conditions. If I developed this diagram
editor I would generate it from scratch using GMF. Believe me, GMF is a very
nice tool to use. It has good documentation and good wiki - http://wiki.eclipse.org/GMF
But if you decide to take UML2Tools as a base, feel free to ask the questions
here =)
Good luck,
Tatiana.
> Hello Tatiana,
> I saw a message sent to the gmf-dev mail list this morning, with a new
> feature where users can customize the diagram palette to hide tools
> that are not needed. Would this be available in future releases of
> the UML2 editors? If so, it may be helpful to the the originator of
> this thread, and to my users, who use standard UML diagrams but would
> like to hide some of the palette choices to avoid confusion by
> business modelers.
> Dave
>
> "Tatiana Fesenko" <tatiana.fesenko@borland.com> wrote in message
> news:6785c52629f08ca11eebf8731d6@news.eclipse.org...
>
>> I my opinion, UML2Tools editor customization will take more resources
>> than new diagram editor generation.
>>
>>> UML2Tools. However, I'm concerned that the class and state machine
>>> editors are too complex for my users. The users are electrical
>>> engineers, not software engineers.
>>>
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