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Re: Batch tooling? [message #433951 is a reply to message #433950] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 14:57 |
Kevin Sutter Messages: 106 Registered: July 2009 |
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Thanks, Karen, for the reply. Answers embedded below...
> Hi Kevin,
> I think you should ask the DTP team about this. We are taking our model
> and turning it into a DTP model and then using their wizard to do the ddl
> gen. We would have a little work to do to put in the command line api,
> but I am not sure if the DTP has non-ui based ddl gen either. I would ask
> them about it(maybe they support it and we just aren't taking advantage)
> and then enter an enhancement request against both products.
Okay, will follow up with the DTP team. Thanks.
> That said, this seems like an odd request to me. Maybe it's because of my
> TopLink background which often supports large customers with legacy
> databases. Also, purely using ddl gen would not lead to a well formed
> database model. Just curious about your need for this feature.
I agree that pure ddl gen would not be the "final answer" for creating
your database model. But, in general, I hate to be too dependent on a
ui-based editting environment. For example, suppose I have an Eclipse
project that I am doing some development on and my local database type is
Derby. There is another team somewhere that wants to see what I have, but
they don't use Eclipse (heaven forbid). And, they use MySQL instead of
Derby. It would be nice if my build script could kick off the ddl
generation for their database environment so that they could use, examine,
or test with my code without requiring an Eclipse/Dali setup. Sure, there
are multiple ways to work around this. And, I could probably live with
out, but I was just curious whether this type of function would be
available outside of the Eclipse ui environment.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Batch tooling? [message #585345 is a reply to message #433950] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 14:57 |
Kevin Sutter Messages: 106 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Thanks, Karen, for the reply. Answers embedded below...
> Hi Kevin,
> I think you should ask the DTP team about this. We are taking our model
> and turning it into a DTP model and then using their wizard to do the ddl
> gen. We would have a little work to do to put in the command line api,
> but I am not sure if the DTP has non-ui based ddl gen either. I would ask
> them about it(maybe they support it and we just aren't taking advantage)
> and then enter an enhancement request against both products.
Okay, will follow up with the DTP team. Thanks.
> That said, this seems like an odd request to me. Maybe it's because of my
> TopLink background which often supports large customers with legacy
> databases. Also, purely using ddl gen would not lead to a well formed
> database model. Just curious about your need for this feature.
I agree that pure ddl gen would not be the "final answer" for creating
your database model. But, in general, I hate to be too dependent on a
ui-based editting environment. For example, suppose I have an Eclipse
project that I am doing some development on and my local database type is
Derby. There is another team somewhere that wants to see what I have, but
they don't use Eclipse (heaven forbid). And, they use MySQL instead of
Derby. It would be nice if my build script could kick off the ddl
generation for their database environment so that they could use, examine,
or test with my code without requiring an Eclipse/Dali setup. Sure, there
are multiple ways to work around this. And, I could probably live with
out, but I was just curious whether this type of function would be
available outside of the Eclipse ui environment.
Thanks,
Kevin
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