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Sat, 08 November 2003 07:24

Eclipse User

Hi,

I just started to check out eclipse for C++ development (CDT 1.2 on GNU
Linux).After all I'm very pleased. But still I have a few notes:

BUG:
====
1) Bug: If I change a file in the editor and then undo the change the file
is still marked changed and I will be asked if I want to save it on close.

USABILITY:
==========
1) I manage the makefiles of a c++ project myself and added some targets
with "Project->Create Make Targets..". When I want to build one of those
targets I first have to click on the project in the navigator to enable the
menu entry "Project->Build Make Target...". Why? It's not very comfortable,
it should be enaugh to have a cpp file of that project active.

2) When I build a target there pops up an annoying status messagebox staying
on top of my workbench hiding things. I usually want to go on editing or I
watch the compile output. This messagebox is disturbing. The functionality
it provides (cancel the build) should be provided in the menu, toolbar or
some other non disturbing way.

3) I couldn't find any interface to grep. So I guess its just not
implemented yet. Are any plan to do that?

Are there any chance to get those issues changed or did I miss the configure
option to change them myself?

Greetings and thanks for giving such a great tool away for free.

Heiko

Re: Usability [message #85406 is a reply to message #85332]

Tue, 11 November 2003 12:08

Eclipse User

Heiko Gerdau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just started to check out eclipse for C++ development (CDT 1.2 on GNU
> Linux).After all I'm very pleased. But still I have a few notes:
>
> BUG:
> ====
> 1) Bug: If I change a file in the editor and then undo the change the file
> is still marked changed and I will be asked if I want to save it on close.
>
This seems to be the behavior across all editors in Eclipse so when
reporting in bugzilla it should be given to the platform ui component.
> USABILITY:
> ==========
> 1) I manage the makefiles of a c++ project myself and added some targets
> with "Project->Create Make Targets..". When I want to build one of those
> targets I first have to click on the project in the navigator to enable the
> menu entry "Project->Build Make Target...". Why? It's not very comfortable,
> it should be enaugh to have a cpp file of that project active.

Please create a bugzilla report for this so that it can be addressed.

>
> 2) When I build a target there pops up an annoying status messagebox staying
> on top of my workbench hiding things. I usually want to go on editing or I
> watch the compile output. This messagebox is disturbing. The functionality
> it provides (cancel the build) should be provided in the menu, toolbar or
> some other non disturbing way.

This is something that should be addressed with Eclipse 3.0.

> 3) I couldn't find any interface to grep. So I guess its just not
> implemented yet. Are any plan to do that?

Eclipse at the platform level has general file searching capabilities
through the Search menu.

> Are there any chance to get those issues changed or did I miss the configure
> option to change them myself?
>

Reported issues through bugs.eclipse.org will get looked at.

Thanks.
> Greetings and thanks for giving such a great tool away for free.
>
> Heiko

Re: Usability [message #85662 is a reply to message #85332]

Fri, 14 November 2003 05:12

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: tt.go.to.hell

Heiko did you report those issues to bugzilla like David Inglis suggested?
If so then do you mind posting the bug ids?

Usability problems are my main concern with eclipse so far.

TTimo

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:24:48 +0100
Heiko Gerdau <hg@technosis.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just started to check out eclipse for C++ development (CDT 1.2 on GNU
> Linux).After all I'm very pleased. But still I have a few notes:
>
> BUG:
> ====
> 1) Bug: If I change a file in the editor and then undo the change the file
> is still marked changed and I will be asked if I want to save it on close.
>
> USABILITY:
> ==========
> 1) I manage the makefiles of a c++ project myself and added some targets
> with "Project->Create Make Targets..". When I want to build one of those
> targets I first have to click on the project in the navigator to enable the
> menu entry "Project->Build Make Target...". Why? It's not very comfortable,
> it should be enaugh to have a cpp file of that project active.
>
> 2) When I build a target there pops up an annoying status messagebox staying
> on top of my workbench hiding things. I usually want to go on editing or I
> watch the compile output. This messagebox is disturbing. The functionality
> it provides (cancel the build) should be provided in the menu, toolbar or
> some other non disturbing way.
>
> 3) I couldn't find any interface to grep. So I guess its just not
> implemented yet. Are any plan to do that?
>
> Are there any chance to get those issues changed or did I miss the configure
> option to change them myself?
>
> Greetings and thanks for giving such a great tool away for free.
>
> Heiko

Re: Usability [message #85713 is a reply to message #85406]

Fri, 14 November 2003 08:47

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: tt.go.to.hell

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:08:15 -0500
David Inglis <dinglis@qnx.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > 2) When I build a target there pops up an annoying status messagebox staying
> > on top of my workbench hiding things. I usually want to go on editing or I
> > watch the compile output. This messagebox is disturbing. The functionality
> > it provides (cancel the build) should be provided in the menu, toolbar or
> > some other non disturbing way.
>
> This is something that should be addressed with Eclipse 3.0.
>

Just compiled CDT from CVS HEAD and running it against 3.0 M4. The build
message box is still floating on top and preventing any editing while the
build is going.

TTimo

Re: Usability [message #85757 is a reply to message #85713]

Fri, 14 November 2003 10:51

Eclipse User

I believe background building is enabled only during an auto build.
so you will have to enable "Build on resource save" in the workbench
to enable this.

Timothee Besset wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:08:15 -0500
> David Inglis <dinglis@qnx.com> wrote:
>
>>>2) When I build a target there pops up an annoying status messagebox staying
>>>on top of my workbench hiding things. I usually want to go on editing or I
>>>watch the compile output. This messagebox is disturbing. The functionality
>>>it provides (cancel the build) should be provided in the menu, toolbar or
>>>some other non disturbing way.
>>
>>This is something that should be addressed with Eclipse 3.0.
>>
>
>
> Just compiled CDT from CVS HEAD and running it against 3.0 M4. The build
> message box is still floating on top and preventing any editing while the
> build is going.
>
> TTimo

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