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Less Java-ness possible? [message #58013]

Fri, 12 October 2007 22:41

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mt74.shaw.ca

For those of us who don't develop at all in Java, is there a way to remove
all the Java-centric preferences/keybindings/views/documentation etc?

As a newcomer to Eclipse/PDT I find it somewhat overwhelming figuring it
all out and I feel like all these Java specific features are adding
un-necessary complexity (and perhaps bloat) to the environment.

Is there a module under "software updates => manage configuration" that is
safe to disable if I'm not going to be doing any Java Development?

Cheers and thanks,
Mark

Re: Less Java-ness possible? [message #58582 is a reply to message #58013]

Tue, 16 October 2007 04:16

Eclipse User

Hi Mark,
what kind of activity are you going to do with Eclipse then? Would any
of the prebuilt distros from http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ do for you?

Cheers
Martin

Re: Less Java-ness possible? [message #58898 is a reply to message #58582]

Wed, 17 October 2007 16:13

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mt74.shaw.ca

I'm new to Eclipse and just using it for PHP (PDT) at the moment (and
maybe one day C/C++). Right now I have the PDT all-in-one package
installed.

When I look at the key bindings for example there are literally hundreds
of options and most of them seem Java-specific. Also, when examining all
the different views/perspectives (and trying to figure out what each
does), most seem to not even apply to PDT, yet are still available with
the PDT-specific download.

I realize that Eclipse was originally built for Java development (as I
understand it) but I'm trying to keep memory/cpu usage down as much as
possible. Running PDT/Eclipse I regularly see memory usage approaching
400mb (on OS/X), although to be fair that is with the integrated Firefox
browser.

Cheers and thanks,
Mark

Re: Less Java-ness possible? [message #58946 is a reply to message #58898]

Thu, 18 October 2007 01:22

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ganoro.gmail.com

this will be a good resource for you (it's all about activities)

http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench_advext_activities.htm

Re: Less Java-ness possible? [message #60383 is a reply to message #58946]

Tue, 06 November 2007 05:08

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mt74.shaw.ca

Thanks for the link, although I guess that info is more for the PDT
developers than end users like myself.

I guess I am wondering if the PDT devs will eventually remove the Java
specific activities from a future version of PDT-all-in-one? Eclipse is
massive, resource intensive and complex and I'm trying to understand why a
PHP IDE would come standard with all this Java development functionality,
(including perspectives/key bindings/config preferences and so on).

Simply trying to figure out how to do simple key bindings is overwhelming
because there are several hundred Java specific commands in the key
binding preferences (as just one example).

So will there ever be an all-in-one version without all this java
development stuff (JDT?) included? Alternately is there a way to remove or
disable it?

Cheers and thanks

Re: Less Java-ness possible? [message #60405 is a reply to message #60383]

Tue, 06 November 2007 09:29

Eclipse User

Yes there is a simple action you should follow:
Window -> Preference -> General -> Capabilties -> Advanced -> Development
-> disable JDT and other stuff you don't need.

good luck!
- Roy

Re: Less Java-ness possible? [message #69280 is a reply to message #60405]

Tue, 22 April 2008 14:31

Eclipse User

Roy wrote:
> Yes there is a simple action you should follow:
> Window -> Preference -> General -> Capabilties -> Advanced ->
> Development -> disable JDT and other stuff you don't need.
>
> good luck!
> - Roy
>
I'm using 3.3 (not all in one)
and I cant find that option... I can disable them using the update
manager console, but what I want is just remove them..

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