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Brief-mode for editor [message #65911] Fri, 04 April 2003 20:31 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: groups.asd-group.com

Any chance of Brief compatibility (key bindings, etc) at some point ??
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #66017 is a reply to message #65911] Sun, 06 April 2003 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lists.asd-group.com

So does that mean yes ??? 8-)
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #66038 is a reply to message #65911] Mon, 07 April 2003 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: johan.nosp.m.appeal.se

ChrisM wrote:
> Any chance of Brief compatibility (key bindings, etc) at some point ??

File an enhancement request at "http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs". I'd
guess "no", but having a request lying around in the BTS is definitely
better than just having it being forgotten about in this NG.

Cheers //Johan
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #66100 is a reply to message #66038] Mon, 07 April 2003 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lists.asd-group.com

Cheers - I have done so. Considering that the code editor is really core
functionality which will make or break virtually all Eclipse-based
solutions, I was somewhat underwhelmed at its lack of "proper" IDE code
editing features :-)

"Johan Walles" <johan.nosp@m.appeal.se> wrote in message
news:b6r5f6$aul$1@rogue.oti.com...
> ChrisM wrote:
> > Any chance of Brief compatibility (key bindings, etc) at some point ??
>
> File an enhancement request at "http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs". I'd
> guess "no", but having a request lying around in the BTS is definitely
> better than just having it being forgotten about in this NG.
>
> Cheers //Johan
>
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #66204 is a reply to message #66100] Tue, 08 April 2003 03:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: johan.nosp.m.appeal.se

ChrisM wrote:
> Cheers - I have done so. Considering that the code editor is really core
> functionality which will make or break virtually all Eclipse-based
> solutions, I was somewhat underwhelmed at its lack of "proper" IDE code
> editing features :-)

Just out of curiosity, what code editing features do you miss?
Personally I just miss indent-current-line-properly-on-TAB
("http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8583"), and re-factorings
(in the works,
" http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/votes.cgi?action=show_bug&b ug_id=23537").

Anything else?

Cheers //Johan
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #66267 is a reply to message #66204] Tue, 08 April 2003 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lists.asd-group.com

Many, many things - at the moment it is reminiscent of MS Notepad with
syntax hilighting! :-)

I've just made some starting suggestions in
http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36161 :
1) improvements to general in-place editing functions, like column
selection, code collapsing, delete to end of line, a line selection 'mode',
etc, etc, etc.

2) regular expression-based search and replace

3) key/action compatibility modes for the major editors, eg. Brief, VC++,
etcIt could also use automation functionality (eg. scripting/macro
capability as suggested in
http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36163) , fast keyboard
bookmarks (eg. Alt-{0-9} define bookmarks at the current code location,
which can then be jumped to with Ctrl-{0-9}), case conversion, etc, etc,
etc.

Cheers,
Chris


"Johan Walles" <johan.nosp@m.appeal.se> wrote in message
news:b6tsib$hma$1@rogue.oti.com...
> ChrisM wrote:
> > Cheers - I have done so. Considering that the code editor is really core
> > functionality which will make or break virtually all Eclipse-based
> > solutions, I was somewhat underwhelmed at its lack of "proper" IDE code
> > editing features :-)
>
> Just out of curiosity, what code editing features do you miss?
> Personally I just miss indent-current-line-properly-on-TAB
> ("http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8583"), and re-factorings
> (in the works,
> " http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/votes.cgi?action=show_bug&b ug_id=23537").
>
> Anything else?
>
> Cheers //Johan
>
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #67147 is a reply to message #66100] Wed, 23 April 2003 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"ChrisM" <lists@asd-group.com> wrote in message
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> Cheers - I have done so. Considering that the code editor is really core
> functionality which will make or break virtually all Eclipse-based
> solutions, I was somewhat underwhelmed at its lack of "proper" IDE code
> editing features :-)

Its certainly not free, but take a look at the new Visual SlickEdit plugin.
http://www.slickedit.com ("websphere and eclipse plugin available now" link
on the left)

It has a brief mode (although I don't use that mode) and many other
advanced editing features.

--

"The stuff we call "software" is not like anything that human society
is used to thinking about. Software is something like a machine, and
something like mathematics, and something like language, and
something like thought, and art, and information...
but software is not in fact any of those other things."
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Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #67157 is a reply to message #66267] Wed, 23 April 2003 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Didn't see this one or would have commented on it in my original post.
The SlickEdit plugin has all those features and more.

Although its hard to choose which feature I like the most, I'd perhaps
vote for the SlickEdit ability to be able to tag and edit files that are
outside
the workspace.
I never have to leave the eclipse environment now, plus, I can point to
multiple external C/C++ and JDK source/header files for definition/tag
browsing. YMMV.

"ChrisM" <lists@asd-group.com> wrote in message
news:b6v17e$r4d$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Many, many things - at the moment it is reminiscent of MS Notepad with
> syntax hilighting! :-)
>
> I've just made some starting suggestions in
> http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36161 :
> 1) improvements to general in-place editing functions, like column
> selection, code collapsing, delete to end of line, a line selection
'mode',
> etc, etc, etc.
>
> 2) regular expression-based search and replace
>
> 3) key/action compatibility modes for the major editors, eg. Brief, VC++,
> etcIt could also use automation functionality (eg. scripting/macro
> capability as suggested in
> http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36163) , fast keyboard
> bookmarks (eg. Alt-{0-9} define bookmarks at the current code location,
> which can then be jumped to with Ctrl-{0-9}), case conversion, etc, etc,
> etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris

--

"The stuff we call "software" is not like anything that human society
is used to thinking about. Software is something like a machine, and
something like mathematics, and something like language, and
something like thought, and art, and information...
but software is not in fact any of those other things."
Bruce Sterling - The Hacker Crackdown

Fred A. Kulack - IBM eServer iSeries ERP, Java DB2 access, Jdbc, JTA, etc...
IBM in Rochester, MN (Phone: 507.253.5982 T/L 553-5982)
mailto:kulack@us.ibm.com Personal: mailto:kulack@magnaspeed.net
AOL Instant Messenger: Home:FKulack Work:FKulackWrk
Re: Brief-mode for editor [message #67185 is a reply to message #67157] Wed, 23 April 2003 20:49 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: mkn.example.com

Hi,

have you seen the filedrag plugin? It allows you to drag and edit
files outside the workspace (uses a "dummy" project and links to the
files). See http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunshade/.

Regards

/mkn


Fred A. Kulack wrote:
> Didn't see this one or would have commented on it in my original post.
> The SlickEdit plugin has all those features and more.
>
> Although its hard to choose which feature I like the most, I'd perhaps
> vote for the SlickEdit ability to be able to tag and edit files that are
> outside
> the workspace.
> I never have to leave the eclipse environment now, plus, I can point to
> multiple external C/C++ and JDK source/header files for definition/tag
> browsing. YMMV.
>
> "ChrisM" <lists@asd-group.com> wrote in message
> news:b6v17e$r4d$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
>>Many, many things - at the moment it is reminiscent of MS Notepad with
>>syntax hilighting! :-)
>>
>>I've just made some starting suggestions in
>>http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36161 :
>>1) improvements to general in-place editing functions, like column
>>selection, code collapsing, delete to end of line, a line selection
>
> 'mode',
>
>>etc, etc, etc.
>>
>>2) regular expression-based search and replace
>>
>>3) key/action compatibility modes for the major editors, eg. Brief, VC++,
>>etcIt could also use automation functionality (eg. scripting/macro
>>capability as suggested in
>>http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36163) , fast keyboard
>>bookmarks (eg. Alt-{0-9} define bookmarks at the current code location,
>>which can then be jumped to with Ctrl-{0-9}), case conversion, etc, etc,
>>etc.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Chris
>
>
> --
>
> "The stuff we call "software" is not like anything that human society
> is used to thinking about. Software is something like a machine, and
> something like mathematics, and something like language, and
> something like thought, and art, and information...
> but software is not in fact any of those other things."
> Bruce Sterling - The Hacker Crackdown
>
> Fred A. Kulack - IBM eServer iSeries ERP, Java DB2 access, Jdbc, JTA, etc...
> IBM in Rochester, MN (Phone: 507.253.5982 T/L 553-5982)
> mailto:kulack@us.ibm.com Personal: mailto:kulack@magnaspeed.net
> AOL Instant Messenger: Home:FKulack Work:FKulackWrk
>
>
>
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