| BPMN & bpel integration [message #616657] |
Mon, 09 June 2008 21:19  |
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Originally posted by: ymo.noemail.com
Hi.
I am trying to integrate the BPMN editor to the BPEL editor. i need a way
to extend the BPMN editor so that :
1) A user can attach a bpel process file to a task element. Even with the
ico showing up in the BPMN editor.
2) When a user clicks on a this task element i want to take the user into
editing the attached bpel file.
3) A user can attach a wsdl file to a message connection via the
properties window or any other way.
Is this a functionality that will be one day available in stp ?
i am already reading :
http://wiki.eclipse.org/STP/BPMN_Component/STP_BPMN_Presenta tion_Hands_on_tutorial
However, the customizing the message connection is not covered in it. Is
there any other docs/tutorials available somewehere else ?
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| Re: BPMN & bpel integration [message #616669 is a reply to message #616668] |
Wed, 11 June 2008 05:03  |
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Hi,
I agree with you Antoine. BPMN and SCA address two different things. As
you said BPMN is about drawing business processes. SCA is a programming
model that allows you to describe component-based applications. You can
compose existing or not existing functions into new solutions. To
summarize, SCA specifications allow to design applications with the
ability to:
- Dissociate applications from details of its invoked service calls.
- Target services in a multitude of languages: Java, C++, BPEL, PHP, ...
- Work with various communication constructs: one-way, asynchronous,
notification, ...
- Bind to legacy components or services accessed via Web Services, EJB,
JMS, RMI, ...
- Declare outside requirements about quality of service : security,
transaction, ...
- ... have a look at the SCA specifications ;)
Concerning the SCA Composite Designer, currently, you can only
drag'n'drop Java files or SCA assembly files on components to set the
component implementations. Then you can right clic on the implementation
icon to open the file with the Java editor or the SCA designer.
We plan to propose some extension points allowing to drag'n'drop
different kinds of implementation(for instance BPEL)/interface/binding
and to open the file by right clic with the appropriate editor (for
instance the BPEL designer).
Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo
Antoine Toulme a écrit :
> I don't know about that. The SCA editor devs should know more.
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> BPMN and SCA are not competing, they serve different approachs. SCA is
> meant to help define services while BPMN is just about drawing business
> processes. There is no inherent executable nature behind BPMN processes.
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> Of course if you use them for defining interfaces between services then
> they tend to be pretty equivalent.
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> That said, I didn't try the SCA editor (yet), so I might be wrong.
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> Thanks,
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> Antoine
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> ymo wrote:
>> Is it possible to extend (dnd, editors, etc ... ) the SCA editor in
>> the same way ?
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>> p.s.
>> correction of the previous question
>>
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