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Eclipse as a project loader [message #50836] Tue, 27 May 2003 20:36 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hello,

I am interested in using the Eclipse plugin loading framework for my
project. However I do not wish to require any SWT/UI stuff.

What would really make my day is to only include one jar from Eclipse (
like boot.jar ), and be able to use it to be a bootstrap plugin loader
for my project. ( For some people this will mean loading the Eclipse
workbench and everything else including SWT. )

I have so far found some references to being able to do this by
extending org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications , however I cannot seem
to find this in the API.

The best page of info has so far been:
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/org.ecli pse.platform.doc.user/tasks/running_eclipse.htm

The goal is to use Eclipse as a central loader for a number of currently
unrelated projects, then, as we integrate them, each would be able to
specify what dependcies it has and they would be loaded.

Example:
I start by running a CLI only program to do some analysis. Then I
invoke a chart viewing program to plot the data I just generated. To
get more information about my samples I load in a database query module.
Each of these three modules ( analysis, database, info ) are seperate
plugins, and each can exist with the other. Ideally it could be made to
go to the web and get a plugin you didn't have as well.

I am currently looking at NetBeans as well for this purpose, but Eclipse
is better written with more documentation. And while I ham learning to
like SWT, other people are never going to move from Swing, so supporting
both ( obviously not in the same window ) would be very nice.

Any help at all would be much appreciated.

Rowan Christmas
Institute for Systems Biology
xmas@systemsbiology.org
Re: Eclipse as a project loader [message #52130 is a reply to message #50836] Wed, 28 May 2003 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: boris.litvak.lycos.com

I know it's possible. You can even try to remove all UI related plugins,
and start eclipse up.
About SWT/Swing integration: I have seen a document on this, I think in
javaworld (not sure). So it's possible too.
Re: Eclipse as a project loader [message #52208 is a reply to message #52130] Wed, 28 May 2003 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Do you know which set of plugins would be the absolute minimum set
required to run?

Developer wrote:
> I know it's possible. You can even try to remove all UI related plugins,
> and start eclipse up.
> About SWT/Swing integration: I have seen a document on this, I think in
> javaworld (not sure). So it's possible too.
>
>
>
Re: Eclipse as a project loader [message #53612 is a reply to message #52208] Thu, 29 May 2003 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: boris.litvak.lycos.com

Rowan Christmas wrote:

> Do you know which set of plugins would be the absolute minimum set
> required to run?
No, but you need a platform runtime only, which
"Defines the extension point and plug-in model. It dynamically discovers
plug-ins and maintains information in a platform registry. Plug-ins are
started up when required according to user operation of the platform."
I might guess this icludes only org.eclipse.core.* and maybe platform
launcher.
I think you can get more info at
http://www.eclipse.org/platform/index.html. (goto CVS).
Re: Eclipse as a project loader [message #54755 is a reply to message #53612] Thu, 29 May 2003 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
So I started a new Thread to hopefully generate more interest ;) It
seems like not that many people are using eclipse as a stand-alone
project launcher in general.

If I can get my project to load easily I plan on submitting some new
documentation that will hopefully simplify this whole process.

Developer wrote:
> Rowan Christmas wrote:
>
>
>>Do you know which set of plugins would be the absolute minimum set
>>required to run?
>
> No, but you need a platform runtime only, which
> "Defines the extension point and plug-in model. It dynamically discovers
> plug-ins and maintains information in a platform registry. Plug-ins are
> started up when required according to user operation of the platform."
> I might guess this icludes only org.eclipse.core.* and maybe platform
> launcher.
> I think you can get more info at
> http://www.eclipse.org/platform/index.html. (goto CVS).
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Eclipse as a project loader [message #55293 is a reply to message #54755] Fri, 30 May 2003 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: bob.objfac.com

Good, but search the newsgroup first. This topic was very recently discussed
and I saw several lists of what you need to do/have to strip Eclipse down.

Bob

"Rowan Christmas" <xmas@systemsbiology.org> wrote in message
news:bb5lk0$f5q$1@rogue.oti.com...
> So I started a new Thread to hopefully generate more interest ;) It
> seems like not that many people are using eclipse as a stand-alone
> project launcher in general.
>
> If I can get my project to load easily I plan on submitting some new
> documentation that will hopefully simplify this whole process.
>
> Developer wrote:
> > Rowan Christmas wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Do you know which set of plugins would be the absolute minimum set
> >>required to run?
> >
> > No, but you need a platform runtime only, which
> > "Defines the extension point and plug-in model. It dynamically discovers
> > plug-ins and maintains information in a platform registry. Plug-ins are
> > started up when required according to user operation of the platform."
> > I might guess this icludes only org.eclipse.core.* and maybe platform
> > launcher.
> > I think you can get more info at
> > http://www.eclipse.org/platform/index.html. (goto CVS).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Eclipse as a project loader [message #57006 is a reply to message #55293] Fri, 30 May 2003 19:04 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
I was unable to find anything useful, which is why I started my own
thread. If you can direct me to anything ( like a date even ) that
would be swell.

Bob Foster wrote:
> Good, but search the newsgroup first. This topic was very recently discussed
> and I saw several lists of what you need to do/have to strip Eclipse down.
>
> Bob
>
> "Rowan Christmas" <xmas@systemsbiology.org> wrote in message
> news:bb5lk0$f5q$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
>>So I started a new Thread to hopefully generate more interest ;) It
>>seems like not that many people are using eclipse as a stand-alone
>>project launcher in general.
>>
>>If I can get my project to load easily I plan on submitting some new
>>documentation that will hopefully simplify this whole process.
>>
>>Developer wrote:
>>
>>>Rowan Christmas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Do you know which set of plugins would be the absolute minimum set
>>>>required to run?
>>>
>>>No, but you need a platform runtime only, which
>>>"Defines the extension point and plug-in model. It dynamically discovers
>>>plug-ins and maintains information in a platform registry. Plug-ins are
>>>started up when required according to user operation of the platform."
>>>I might guess this icludes only org.eclipse.core.* and maybe platform
>>>launcher.
>>>I think you can get more info at
>>>http://www.eclipse.org/platform/index.html. (goto CVS).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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