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An eclipse platform cut down a lot? [message #45306] Fri, 23 May 2003 08:31 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: l.dobrev.efficient-soft.com

Hello group.
Excuse me if I offend someone, or if this question has been answered
earlier.

I decided to trye an duse Eclipse Platform as the base for my desktop
application bundle.

However there are a lot of extras/plugins, that I want to exclude from my
oproject.
Basically I need the core, the base pluging/fragment scheme, the SWT
packages, the HELP packages.
I don't want to see the Project menu at all, and saw no way to exclude
that.
I don't want perspectives. Instead I want a single custom perspective, and
thus I want to remove the Resource perspective, the Update Perspective and
so on.
Basically I wanted to build a simple view-driven application (not so
simple though).

Question: Can I remove a number of plugins from the Eclipse platform So
that I achieve what I want, or is the Eclipse platform built entirely of
required plugins.

Question: If the answer to the first question is true, what plugins should
I remove.

Please reply to group.

Lachezar
Re: An eclipse platform cut down a lot? [message #46010 is a reply to message #45306] Fri, 23 May 2003 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: gsrt.terra.com.br

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Removing plugins is not enough to get your intent. You must "hack" Eclipse code.

Take a look at org.eclipse.ui.iternal.WorkbenchActionBuilder.java. This file
create a lot of menus in a hardcoded way.
You can create your own Action classes and recompile workbench.jar.
TIP: Put your Action classes in the same jar (workbench.jar), otherwise your
code will not be abble to access a lot of usefull classes inside workbench.jar.
Seems that eclipse does not support circular references (PluginA needs PluginB
wich needs PluginA).
Create your own perspective, and change the file
<PLUGIN_DIR>/org.eclipse.platform/plugin_customization.ini to point to your
perspective at initial stage.
Perhaps I miss something, but the bare minimal set of plugins I've get are (and
someone correct me if I'm wrong, please) :

org.apache.xerces_4.0.7
org.eclipse.core.boot_2.1.0
org.eclipse.core.resources.win32_2.1.0
org.eclipse.core.resources_2.1.0
org.eclipse.core.runtime_2.1.0
org.eclipse.jface.text_2.1.0
org.eclipse.jface_2.1.0
org.eclipse.platform.win32_2.1.0
org.eclipse.platform_2.1.0
org.eclipse.swt.win32_2.1.0
org.eclipse.swt_2.1.0
org.eclipse.text_2.1.0
org.eclipse.ui.editors_2.1.0
org.eclipse.ui.views_2.1.0
org.eclipse.ui.win32_2.1.0
org.eclipse.ui.workbench.texteditor_2.1.0
org.eclipse.ui.workbench_2.1.0
org.eclipse.ui_2.1.0
org.eclipse.update.core.win32_2.1.0 // could'nt drop "update.XXX"because they
are used to update something in the first startup
org.eclipse.update.core_2.1.0
org.eclipse.update.ui.forms_2.1.0
org.eclipse.update.ui.win32_2.1.0
org.eclipse.update.ui_2.1.0

This takes 11Mb (!). All help plugins could be dropped, but you must edit
dependencies to other plugins.
You can hide editor area by program, and create your views, wich must be shown
by your Actions.
I could'nt find a way to hide shortCutBar by properties, but is possible to hack
WorkbenchWindow (take a look the method updateBarVisibility).Splash screen,
icons can be changed to your look (org.eclipse.platform).

See wich I've take so far (nights without sleep after) in the attached ZIP
And feel free to contact me (gsrt@terra.com.br) to exchange ideas and snippet
codes.


Usefull links :

http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/2586
http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/46

BTW: There are plans to make Eclipse "program centric" instead "tool centric" in
the version 3.0, scheduled to the end of this year.
At least I'm not the only going crazy guy on the block ::->

[]s
Glauco Reis

Lachezar Dobrev wrote:

> Hello group.
> Excuse me if I offend someone, or if this question has been answered
> earlier.
>
> I decided to trye an duse Eclipse Platform as the base for my desktop
> application bundle.
>
> However there are a lot of extras/plugins, that I want to exclude from my
> oproject.
> Basically I need the core, the base pluging/fragment scheme, the SWT
> packages, the HELP packages.
> I don't want to see the Project menu at all, and saw no way to exclude
> that.
> I don't want perspectives. Instead I want a single custom perspective, and
> thus I want to remove the Resource perspective, the Update Perspective and
> so on.
> Basically I wanted to build a simple view-driven application (not so
> simple though).
>
> Question: Can I remove a number of plugins from the Eclipse platform So
> that I achieve what I want, or is the Eclipse platform built entirely of
> required plugins.
>
> Question: If the answer to the first question is true, what plugins should
> I remove.
>
> Please reply to group.
>
> Lachezar

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Re: An eclipse platform cut down a lot? [message #46831 is a reply to message #46010] Fri, 23 May 2003 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Glauco Reis wrote:

> org.eclipse.update.core.win32_2.1.0 // could'nt drop "update.XXX"because they
> are used to update something in the first startup
> org.eclipse.update.core_2.1.0
> org.eclipse.update.ui.forms_2.1.0
> org.eclipse.update.ui.win32_2.1.0
> org.eclipse.update.ui_2.1.0

I think you only need
org.eclipse.update.core.win32_2.1.0
org.eclipse.update.core_2.1.0

> I could'nt find a way to hide shortCutBar by properties, but is possible to
hack

Set
org.eclipse.ui.workbench/SHOW_SHORTCUT_BAR = false
in plugin_customization.ini

> At least I'm not the only going crazy guy on the block ::->

Right. All it takes is a few. And more will join with examples, like
yours, of success.

Thanks,
Don
Re: An eclipse platform cut down a lot? [message #48482 is a reply to message #45306] Mon, 26 May 2003 12:44 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: simon.ibm.oti.lab

We are working on Eclipse as a "rich client platform". That includes doing
some of the things you talk about below (removing the resource perspective,
workbench actions, etc). All without having to hack the eclipse code. Add
yourself to the CC list of bug report 36967. You can also monitor the
eclipse ui dev mailing list.

Simon :-)

"Lachezar Dobrev" <l.dobrev@efficient-soft.com> wrote in message
news:bal49g$h2k$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hello group.
> Excuse me if I offend someone, or if this question has been answered
> earlier.
>
> I decided to trye an duse Eclipse Platform as the base for my desktop
> application bundle.
>
> However there are a lot of extras/plugins, that I want to exclude from
my
> oproject.
> Basically I need the core, the base pluging/fragment scheme, the SWT
> packages, the HELP packages.
> I don't want to see the Project menu at all, and saw no way to exclude
> that.
> I don't want perspectives. Instead I want a single custom perspective,
and
> thus I want to remove the Resource perspective, the Update Perspective and
> so on.
> Basically I wanted to build a simple view-driven application (not so
> simple though).
>
> Question: Can I remove a number of plugins from the Eclipse platform So
> that I achieve what I want, or is the Eclipse platform built entirely of
> required plugins.
>
> Question: If the answer to the first question is true, what plugins
should
> I remove.
>
> Please reply to group.
>
> Lachezar
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