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XText Installation problems [message #36980] Sun, 05 April 2009 14:42 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I've tried in vain to install TMF XText on Eclipse 3.4.2, using a fresh
install of the SDK.

The update manager complained about unsatisfied constraints for XText and
each of its dependencies.

Maybe 3.5M6 is not only preferred, but even required? If so, please update
the following pages:

http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/tmf/updates/
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Xtext/GettingStarted

With 3.5M6, I was able to complete the installation, but it's a bit
confusing that the XText feature pulls in some dependencies automatically,
but you still have to manually install MWE, XPand and missing parts of
EMF.

Even if there may be a good a reason for a minimal XText feature, it would
be convenient to have an all-in-one feature including everything to run
the XText examples.

Regards,

Harald
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37084 is a reply to message #36980] Sun, 05 April 2009 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Harald,

I'm afraid you are struggeling with the update manager of 3.4 and not
with Xtext. Some of us are still on 3.4 and we have no problems with Xtext.

Have you tried the one-click-install from
http://oaw.itemis.com/openarchitectureware/language=en/660/d ownloads
?

As I'm not familiar with P2, I cannot say whether we can change the
configuration of the Xtext feature, to make the install more pleasurable.

Regards,
Sebastian


Harald Wellmann schrieb:
> I've tried in vain to install TMF XText on Eclipse 3.4.2, using a fresh
> install of the SDK.
>
> The update manager complained about unsatisfied constraints for XText
> and each of its dependencies.
> Maybe 3.5M6 is not only preferred, but even required? If so, please
> update the following pages:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/tmf/updates/
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Xtext/GettingStarted
>
> With 3.5M6, I was able to complete the installation, but it's a bit
> confusing that the XText feature pulls in some dependencies
> automatically, but you still have to manually install MWE, XPand and
> missing parts of EMF.
> Even if there may be a good a reason for a minimal XText feature, it
> would be convenient to have an all-in-one feature including everything
> to run the XText examples.
>
> Regards,
>
> Harald
>
>
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37422 is a reply to message #37084] Mon, 06 April 2009 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:

> Hi Harald,

> I'm afraid you are struggeling with the update manager of 3.4 and not
> with Xtext. Some of us are still on 3.4 and we have no problems with Xtext.



I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.

Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?

EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37587 is a reply to message #37422] Mon, 06 April 2009 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Rodney H schrieb:
> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>
> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?

Yes, that's true.

> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.

AFAIK, that's not true.

Cheers,
Sven
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37615 is a reply to message #37587] Mon, 06 April 2009 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Yes, EMF 2.5 depends on Eclipse 3.5.


Sven Efftinge wrote:
> Rodney H schrieb:
>> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>>
>> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>
> Yes, that's true.
>
>> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>
> AFAIK, that's not true.
>
> Cheers,
> Sven
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37714 is a reply to message #37615] Mon, 06 April 2009 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Thats weird, since I'm using Xtext HEAD with Eclipse 3.4 *puzzled*

- Sebastian

Ed Merks schrieb:
> Yes, EMF 2.5 depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>
>
> Sven Efftinge wrote:
>> Rodney H schrieb:
>>> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>>>
>>> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>>
>> Yes, that's true.
>>
>>> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>
>> AFAIK, that's not true.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sven
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37908 is a reply to message #37714] Mon, 06 April 2009 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Sebastian,

Which version of EMF do you have there?


Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
> Thats weird, since I'm using Xtext HEAD with Eclipse 3.4 *puzzled*
>
> - Sebastian
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Yes, EMF 2.5 depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>
>>
>> Sven Efftinge wrote:
>>> Rodney H schrieb:
>>>> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>>>>
>>>> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>>>
>>> Yes, that's true.
>>>
>>>> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, that's not true.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sven
Re: XText Installation problems [message #37942 is a reply to message #37908] Mon, 06 April 2009 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Ed,

I'm using EMF from CVS HEAD. Starting a runtime workbench, the plug-in
view indicates EMF 2.5.0, but the Eclipse About Dialog shows only EMF 2.4.1.

Xtext uses the MinimalEObject implementation, thus I guess EMF 2.5 is
working fine with Ganymede, although the update manager denies the update.

Regards,
Sebastian


Ed Merks schrieb:
> Sebastian,
>
> Which version of EMF do you have there?
>
>
> Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
>> Thats weird, since I'm using Xtext HEAD with Eclipse 3.4 *puzzled*
>>
>> - Sebastian
>>
>> Ed Merks schrieb:
>>> Yes, EMF 2.5 depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sven Efftinge wrote:
>>>> Rodney H schrieb:
>>>>> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that's true.
>>>>
>>>>> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK, that's not true.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sven
Re: XText Installation problems [message #38037 is a reply to message #37942] Mon, 06 April 2009 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Sebastian,

EMF has no version ranges checked into CVS so if you bootstrap directly
it might well work. But when we do a build, we inject the version
ranges based on what we build against.


Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> I'm using EMF from CVS HEAD. Starting a runtime workbench, the plug-in
> view indicates EMF 2.5.0, but the Eclipse About Dialog shows only EMF
> 2.4.1.
>
> Xtext uses the MinimalEObject implementation, thus I guess EMF 2.5 is
> working fine with Ganymede, although the update manager denies the
> update.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian
>
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Sebastian,
>>
>> Which version of EMF do you have there?
>>
>>
>> Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
>>> Thats weird, since I'm using Xtext HEAD with Eclipse 3.4 *puzzled*
>>>
>>> - Sebastian
>>>
>>> Ed Merks schrieb:
>>>> Yes, EMF 2.5 depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sven Efftinge wrote:
>>>>> Rodney H schrieb:
>>>>>> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse
>>>>>> 3.4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that's true.
>>>>>
>>>>>> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK, that's not true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sven
Re: XText Installation problems [message #38101 is a reply to message #37422] Mon, 06 April 2009 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

Can one of the Xtext developers provide a recipe for Xtext installation on
3.4 (and 3.5 probably needs clarification) and maybe post a authoritative
separate message for it when all the issues are sorted so we don't have to
spend time fighting with this. If there are issues with the update manager
we need some workaround. I have been using the full Itemis distribution
( http://oaw.itemis.de/openarchitectureware/language=de/660/do wnloads) of
XText to avoid these problems.

I am happy to try/verify any procedures the group comes up with on Windows
and Linux.

Thanks,
Derek


"Rodney H" <rodneyh@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:d28a3463975c84924c93e019455b0904$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
>
>> Hi Harald,
>
>> I'm afraid you are struggeling with the update manager of 3.4 and not
>> with Xtext. Some of us are still on 3.4 and we have no problems with
>> Xtext.
>
>
>
> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>
> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>
> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>
>
>
Re: XText Installation problems [message #38133 is a reply to message #38101] Mon, 06 April 2009 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I did notice the Itemis download links
for a complete install - unfortunately, they don't offer a distro for my
platform (Linux x86_64).

So if things do work on 3.4, with a manual install or whatever, it would
be nice if someone could provide some instructions on the Getting started
page...

Regards,

Harald
Re: XText Installation problems [message #38164 is a reply to message #38133] Mon, 06 April 2009 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I have a similar problem. My main dev/build platform is Linux x86_64. I have
been doing the Xtext work on Windows. These messages are timely and
appreciated since I would also like to move back to Linux for integration
testing which is all 3.4 based.

Derek

"Harald Wellmann" <hwellmann@harmanbecker.com> wrote in message
news:34f59dbd4f2de84a4d78eafcbfaae05b$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I did notice the Itemis download links
> for a complete install - unfortunately, they don't offer a distro for my
> platform (Linux x86_64).
>
> So if things do work on 3.4, with a manual install or whatever, it would
> be nice if someone could provide some instructions on the Getting started
> page...
>
> Regards,
>
> Harald
>
>
Re: XText Installation problems [message #38592 is a reply to message #38101] Tue, 07 April 2009 03:32 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
As we just learned, Xtext requires EMF 2.5 requires Eclipse 3.5.

So even if it would technically work (for Sebastian it soemhow does), we
don't want to provide a recipe or the like as this will most likely
cause trouble.
Sorry, but TMF Xtext requires Eclipse 3.5.

Cheers,
Sven

Derek Palma schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Can one of the Xtext developers provide a recipe for Xtext installation
> on 3.4 (and 3.5 probably needs clarification) and maybe post a
> authoritative separate message for it when all the issues are sorted so
> we don't have to spend time fighting with this. If there are issues with
> the update manager we need some workaround. I have been using the full
> Itemis distribution
> ( http://oaw.itemis.de/openarchitectureware/language=de/660/do wnloads) of
> XText to avoid these problems.
>
> I am happy to try/verify any procedures the group comes up with on
> Windows and Linux.
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
>
> "Rodney H" <rodneyh@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:d28a3463975c84924c93e019455b0904$1@www.eclipse.org...
>> Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Harald,
>>
>>> I'm afraid you are struggeling with the update manager of 3.4 and not
>>> with Xtext. Some of us are still on 3.4 and we have no problems with
>>> Xtext.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd really like to know how to get TMF Xtext working with Eclipse 3.4.
>>
>> Xtext seems to depend on EMF 2.5, am I right?
>>
>> EMF 2.5 in turn depends on Eclipse 3.5.
>>
>>
>>
>
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