| CVS Server [message #300551] |
Sat, 11 March 2006 21:47  |
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Originally posted by: UllSang.gmail.com
Hello. I am using eclipse for Java. I would like to run a CVS server, i
need it for a project that my i will be doing in a little bit. Where can i
get one to install for Windows? if that isnt availble how about for linux?
thanks for your help
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| Re: CVS Server [message #300618 is a reply to message #300600] |
Tue, 14 March 2006 04:45  |
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Originally posted by: address.starts.after.hyphen-martin.umgeher.joanneum.at
Mark Phippard wrote:
> martin wrote:
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>> JD C wrote:
>>> Okay an FYI the freedownload does have the sever there is just no
>>> real support or instructions the wiki that it says to go to is so
>>> outdated. Should i use subversion or cvs? based on what i said
>>> earlier which should i use? thanks
>>>
>> One can argue that subversion in general is better than CVS, but the
>> eclipse plugin for subversion (subclipse) really, really sucks when
>> it comes to changing the package struckture of a Java project. It
>> screwed up my repository several times when I tried to do a 'rename
>> package' refactoring. Still, I'd suggest subversion and perform big
>> refactorings manually (i.e. using an external client).
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> The Subclipse mailing list archives are located here:
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> http://svn.haxx.se/
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> Can you please link to the message/thread where you reported this
> problem?
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> Thanks
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> Mark
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Dear Mark,
as you quite likely assume, I have not reported this bug. Since I have
encoutnered this problem from the first time I used subclipse to, well,
last week, I didn't bother to post something I thought was well known to
anyone using the plugin. Now if you tell me that this is not the case,
that I, my co-workers and friedns who use subclipse (and in general like
it) are the only ones with package refactoring troubles (and everyone I
know who uses it did have these toubles)... I might just post to that
list after all. Thanks for the hint.
Regards,
M
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| Re: CVS Server [message #300646 is a reply to message #300618] |
Tue, 14 March 2006 11:15 |
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Originally posted by: markp.softlanding.com
martin wrote:
> as you quite likely assume, I have not reported this bug. Since I
> have encoutnered this problem from the first time I used subclipse
> to, well, last week, I didn't bother to post something I thought was
> well known to anyone using the plugin. Now if you tell me that this
> is not the case, that I, my co-workers and friedns who use subclipse
> (and in general like it) are the only ones with package refactoring
> troubles (and everyone I know who uses it did have these toubles)...
> I might just post to that list after all. Thanks for the hint.
There are no known fixable bugs in this area. So without you posting a
message that details what you are doing, it is hard to reply to you.
That would be best done in the users@subclipse mailing list.
You have taken the time on this list to tell people that Subclipse is
really, really sucky, please take the time to come over to our list and
tell us why so we can possibly fix it.
The main issues I am aware with in regards to refactoring are
Subversion issues. For example, Subversion will not let you
move/rename something and then do it again without having committed the
first move/rename. This is not a Subclipse bug, we properly report and
handle the error thrown by Subversion. There is no reason this could
not be made to work in Subversion, it is just a matter of them plotting
the right strategy. So if that is your problem you should report the
need to them.
Mark
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| Re: CVS Server [message #300652 is a reply to message #300646] |
Tue, 14 March 2006 12:02 |
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Originally posted by: address.starts.after.hyphen-martin.umgeher.joanneum.at
Mark Phippard wrote:
> martin wrote:
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>> as you quite likely assume, I have not reported this bug. Since I
>> have encoutnered this problem from the first time I used subclipse
>> to, well, last week, I didn't bother to post something I thought was
>> well known to anyone using the plugin. Now if you tell me that this
>> is not the case, that I, my co-workers and friedns who use subclipse
>> (and in general like it) are the only ones with package refactoring
>> troubles (and everyone I know who uses it did have these toubles)...
>> I might just post to that list after all. Thanks for the hint.
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> There are no known fixable bugs in this area. So without you posting a
> message that details what you are doing, it is hard to reply to you.
> That would be best done in the users@subclipse mailing list.
>
> You have taken the time on this list to tell people that Subclipse is
> really, really sucky, please take the time to come over to our list and
> tell us why so we can possibly fix it.
>
> The main issues I am aware with in regards to refactoring are
> Subversion issues. For example, Subversion will not let you
> move/rename something and then do it again without having committed the
> first move/rename. This is not a Subclipse bug, we properly report and
> handle the error thrown by Subversion. There is no reason this could
> not be made to work in Subversion, it is just a matter of them plotting
> the right strategy. So if that is your problem you should report the
> need to them.
>
> Mark
Hi Mark,
thanks again, now I know I don't have to post to the subclipse list.
Believe it or not---I don't care whether this is a subclipse problem or
a subversion problem. Though I'm very thankful that so many people
contribute to the different open source projects involved here, I'm just
a user of these projects. So if I do something that IMHO should work
(e.g. rename a package), and it does not work, I don't really care what
part of the system is responsible.
Regards,
M
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| Re: CVS Server [message #300660 is a reply to message #300652] |
Tue, 14 March 2006 15:23 |
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Originally posted by: markp.softlanding.com
martin wrote:
> thanks again, now I know I don't have to post to the subclipse list.
>
> Believe it or not---I don't care whether this is a subclipse problem
> or a subversion problem. Though I'm very thankful that so many people
> contribute to the different open source projects involved here, I'm
> just a user of these projects. So if I do something that IMHO should
> work (e.g. rename a package), and it does not work, I don't really
> care what part of the system is responsible.
So are you saying that is your problem? That you cannot rename the
same item multiple times without doing a commit first? There have been
patches floating around in Subversion to improve this. None have been
accepted into a release yet. The JavaSVN adapter, which is a choice
within Subclipse, has code that handles it better, but they have not
yet exposed it in the API that Subclipse uses. They have said an
upcoming version will add support in that API too, or in a new one that
Subclipse can access.
I do not really understand why you are acting annoyed or offended, when
you are the one that is throwing stones instead of trying to reach a
constructive solution. If you would prefer to not know why this was
failing, I will just go away.
Thanks
Mark
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