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M9: View Re-arrangement [message #243500] Sat, 22 May 2004 10:12 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: me.here.com

It seems another silent "feature" has sneaked in that I'm sure many of us
will find annoying. Every time a perspective is switched (eg. from Debug to
Java) the last active view becomes the leftmost view. If one switches
between active views and perspectives a lot (like I do) the view arrangement
seems almost random.
I'm so used to having my views positioned in a certain order, and I
automatically go with my mouse there, only to find that the view I'm looking
is somewhere else. Arghhh

Also, (and I may get used to this) new editor tabs are always opened on the
left, instead on the right, which is different from any other multiple doc
application out there that I have seen. Quite strange. I can see the motive
behind it, but it is a bit controversial decision.

Other than the above minor annoyances I find M9 extremely good. No problems
with it, in the one hour I played with it. I dare say Eclipse is now the
best development tool in the world out of any tool for any programming
language (and I don't give compliments easily, at least my wife tells me so
:)).
Re: View Re-arrangement [message #243552 is a reply to message #243500] Sat, 22 May 2004 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Not sure about the editor tabs on the left issue?? As far as I know, since
the 2.x days the tabs at the top of the editor for each opened file have
always been on the left. Or am I not understanding what you are saying?

"Mario" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:c8nmm2$ctn$1@eclipse.org...
> It seems another silent "feature" has sneaked in that I'm sure many of us
> will find annoying. Every time a perspective is switched (eg. from Debug
to
> Java) the last active view becomes the leftmost view. If one switches
> between active views and perspectives a lot (like I do) the view
arrangement
> seems almost random.
> I'm so used to having my views positioned in a certain order, and I
> automatically go with my mouse there, only to find that the view I'm
looking
> is somewhere else. Arghhh
>
> Also, (and I may get used to this) new editor tabs are always opened on
the
> left, instead on the right, which is different from any other multiple doc
> application out there that I have seen. Quite strange. I can see the
motive
> behind it, but it is a bit controversial decision.
>
> Other than the above minor annoyances I find M9 extremely good. No
problems
> with it, in the one hour I played with it. I dare say Eclipse is now the
> best development tool in the world out of any tool for any programming
> language (and I don't give compliments easily, at least my wife tells me
so
> :)).
>
>
>
Re: View Re-arrangement [message #243644 is a reply to message #243552] Sat, 22 May 2004 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: me.here.com

Open a file for editing. Follow a link from that file. A new editor is
opened and its tab appears to the left of the first one instead of to the
right. And so on, each new editor you open, its tab will appear as the
leftmost tab. It used to be before M9 (and is in all other apps) that new
editor tabs are placed to be rightmost.

I'm sure the motvation behind this was to make sure that the most recently
open tabs will be visible (always to the left phylosophy that seems to be
followed for view placement as well).
Re: M9: View Re-arrangement [message #243648 is a reply to message #243500] Sat, 22 May 2004 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Mario schrieb:

> It seems another silent "feature" has sneaked in that I'm sure many of us
> will find annoying. Every time a perspective is switched (eg. from Debug to
> Java) the last active view becomes the leftmost view. If one switches
> between active views and perspectives a lot (like I do) the view arrangement
> seems almost random.
> I'm so used to having my views positioned in a certain order, and I
> automatically go with my mouse there, only to find that the view I'm looking
> is somewhere else. Arghhh
>
> Also, (and I may get used to this) new editor tabs are always opened on the
> left, instead on the right, which is different from any other multiple doc
> application out there that I have seen. Quite strange. I can see the motive
> behind it, but it is a bit controversial decision.

I fully agree that this is confusing. Did you write a bug report? I'd
like to vote for it.
Another annoying thing for me is that the perspective switcher always
shows only one perspective after a restart of Eclipse and I need to
resize it to show all opened perspectives. I did not find any preference
to avoid that.

Ciao, Michael.
Re: M9: View Re-arrangement [message #245720 is a reply to message #243648] Wed, 26 May 2004 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ed.burnette.REMOVE.THIS.sas.com

Make an individual bug report for every single thing you don't like or cc
yourself if it's already been reported. If it's a trivial thing, mark it
trivial - that doesn't mean it will be ignored. Some trivial polish items
are actually quite important in the big picture, for example a typo or a
stray line in a dialog the user sees often will give them a bad impression
of the product. Simple things matter and they're often quick to fix.

--
Ed Burnette, co-author, Eclipse in Action
www.eclipsepowered.org

"Michael Keppler" <michael.keppler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:c8o70e$ttq$1@eclipse.org...
> I fully agree that this is confusing. Did you write a bug report? I'd
> like to vote for it.
> Another annoying thing for me is that the perspective switcher always
> shows only one perspective after a restart of Eclipse and I need to
> resize it to show all opened perspectives. I did not find any preference
> to avoid that.
>
> Ciao, Michael.
Re: M9: View Re-arrangement [message #245960 is a reply to message #245720] Wed, 26 May 2004 22:34 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ron.baldwin.sourceprose.com

Ed Burnette wrote:

> Make an individual bug report for every single thing you don't like or cc
> yourself if it's already been reported. If it's a trivial thing, mark it
> trivial - that doesn't mean it will be ignored. Some trivial polish items
> are actually quite important in the big picture, for example a typo or a
> stray line in a dialog the user sees often will give them a bad impression
> of the product. Simple things matter and they're often quick to fix.

Please also post the bug numbers so the rest of us can cc/vote instead
of creating duplicate reports. Thanks.
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