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| Re: [Newbie] Is it kosher for a plug-in to run another program? [message #239290 is a reply to message #239182] | 
Thu, 06 May 2004 13:49    | 
 
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Originally posted by: kapland.uci.edu 
 
yes, thanks.  That helped a lot.  would you mind answering my other question 
I posted on the newsgroup if it's not to much trouble?  I'll copy and paste 
it here: 
 
Hello, hope the topic doesn't make everyone avoid the post. 
 
Anyway, I have 5 weeks to make a plug-in that reads a JAR file for 
project/class/method dependencies and outputs this as a graphical call 
graph.  I'm doing this for a class and it will be an open source project. 
Fortunately (or unfortunately) for me, I already have a separate program 
that can take a JAR file as input and output the dependencies in a text 
file.  I also have another program that can take an input file and output it 
as a graph.  Neither of these programs are Eclipse Plug-Ins. 
 
Now this is my first time working with a group of people and I don't know 
much about eclipse or these other two programs I just mentioned.  So I'm 
wondering how will it be possible to split up this workload between multiple 
people. 
 
This is the main thing I'm wondering: Would *I* be able to make a normal 
(non-Eclipse plug-in) program that does exactly what I just described above 
while someone else just spends the rest of their time studying how to create 
an Eclipse plug-in and at the end of the day we just convert my program into 
a plug-in?  Or is this a very bad way to go about it because, perhaps, 
designing a regular program is complllllletely different from designing an 
Eclipse plug-in? 
 
Thanks, 
Dan 
 
PS: I'd also like to know if this project is conceivable :)  I assume it is. 
"Marko Schulz" <Marko.Schulz@gmx.de> wrote in message 
news:c7dd5o$34l$1@eclipse.org... 
> tieTYT wrote: 
> > Hope this question isn't too annoying for people.  Is it ok for an 
eclipse 
> > plug-in to execute another program that is not an eclipse plug-in? 
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> Sure. You might be able to integrate the other program better, if it was 
> a plug-in, but the platform does call external programs itself too, e.g. 
> when opening resources with external editors or presenting help with an 
> browser. 
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> HTH 
> 
> marko
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| Re: [Newbie] Is it kosher for a plug-in to run another program? [message #240513 is a reply to message #239290] | 
Tue, 11 May 2004 15:26   | 
 
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Originally posted by: John_Arthorne.oti.com_ 
 
While it is possible to integrate a plain Java application into an  
Eclipse plug-in, you will probably get much better and faster  
integration by going straight for an Eclipse-specific implementation.  
The Java development tools in Eclipse have extensive APIs that would  
make this kind of computation quite simple.  Take a look at the  
implementation of the Call Hierarchy plugin in Eclipse as a place to get  
started (package org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.callhierarchy in plugin  
org.eclipse.jdt.ui). 
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tieTYT wrote: 
> yes, thanks.  That helped a lot.  would you mind answering my other question 
> I posted on the newsgroup if it's not to much trouble?  I'll copy and paste 
> it here: 
>  
> Hello, hope the topic doesn't make everyone avoid the post. 
>  
> Anyway, I have 5 weeks to make a plug-in that reads a JAR file for 
> project/class/method dependencies and outputs this as a graphical call 
> graph.  I'm doing this for a class and it will be an open source project. 
> Fortunately (or unfortunately) for me, I already have a separate program 
> that can take a JAR file as input and output the dependencies in a text 
> file.  I also have another program that can take an input file and output it 
> as a graph.  Neither of these programs are Eclipse Plug-Ins. 
>  
> Now this is my first time working with a group of people and I don't know 
> much about eclipse or these other two programs I just mentioned.  So I'm 
> wondering how will it be possible to split up this workload between multiple 
> people. 
>  
> This is the main thing I'm wondering: Would *I* be able to make a normal 
> (non-Eclipse plug-in) program that does exactly what I just described above 
> while someone else just spends the rest of their time studying how to create 
> an Eclipse plug-in and at the end of the day we just convert my program into 
> a plug-in?  Or is this a very bad way to go about it because, perhaps, 
> designing a regular program is complllllletely different from designing an 
> Eclipse plug-in? 
>  
> Thanks, 
> Dan 
>  
> PS: I'd also like to know if this project is conceivable :)  I assume it is. 
> "Marko Schulz" <Marko.Schulz@gmx.de> wrote in message 
> news:c7dd5o$34l$1@eclipse.org... 
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>>tieTYT wrote: 
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>>>Hope this question isn't too annoying for people.  Is it ok for an 
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> eclipse 
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>>>plug-in to execute another program that is not an eclipse plug-in? 
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>>Sure. You might be able to integrate the other program better, if it was 
>>a plug-in, but the platform does call external programs itself too, e.g. 
>>when opening resources with external editors or presenting help with an 
>>browser. 
>> 
>>HTH 
>> 
>>marko 
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