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| What The? [message #239194] |
Tue, 30 October 2007 02:36  |
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Originally posted by: scott.winch.menzies.edu.au
STEM is NOT user friendly software. A guide to how to use STEM rather than
the current guide on what STEM can do would be so much more useful... It's
like giving you a jet and telling you where you can go, but no pilot!!
I have spent quite some time trying to navigate through STEM only to find
barrier after barrier. This is not a useful tool in an outbreak setting
because it is not user friendly, a fundamental principle in I.T. systems!!
There should at least be on line tutorials which would make it so much
more acceptable...
Are there any solutions out there???
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| Re: What The? [message #239202 is a reply to message #239198] |
Tue, 30 October 2007 10:00  |
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Ed,=20
thanks for cross posting to ohf, I missed this one...
Scott,
I agree with you, at the moment, STEM is not very user friendly (but =
everything does work). The code was released in June and is still in =
"incubation", so I would classify it as "not done yet". The reason it =
was released was to make it possible for others to contribute to its =
development, including helping with the code, data, mathematics, =
documentation, tutorials, NLS, etc. Right now we've got people working =
on model mathematics (including the only Epidemiologist I know who can =
also handle EMF!), BIRT integration, advanced transportation models =
(e.g., people on airplanes, cows on trucks), NASA World Wind integration =
(mostly done), batch processing, data set legalities, and GUI design, to =
name just a few things going on. =20
Please come join the team, we'd love to have your help. The first thing =
you could do is use the Eclipse bugzilla to report the things you think =
need attention. Follow this link: =
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=3DOHF
--=20
Daniel Ford
IBM Almaden Research Center
San Jose, CA
"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message =
news:fg7atu$qdj$1@build.eclipse.org...
Scott,
I've added the OHF newsgroup to the "to" list of the reply. I assume =
you've read
=
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Installation_Guide#Running _Stem_as_a_st=
andalone_application
and that you've looked at the online help.
Keep in mind that Eclipse is an open source project and hence your =
involvement in helping make it better will be appreciated. There is a =
wiki where you could start to outline a user's guide and hope that this =
will prompt the developers to help flesh it out further:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/OHF#STEM
With EMF, if folks start a wiki document and ask me to review it, I =
typically feel compelled to expand on it. The principle being that I =
tend to be more inclined to help those who help themselves...
Scott Winch wrote:=20
STEM is NOT user friendly software. A guide to how to use STEM =
rather than the current guide on what STEM can do would be so much more =
useful... It's like giving you a jet and telling you where you can go, =
but no pilot!!=20
I have spent quite some time trying to navigate through STEM only to =
find barrier after barrier. This is not a useful tool in an outbreak =
setting because it is not user friendly, a fundamental principle in I.T. =
systems!!=20
There should at least be on line tutorials which would make it so =
much more acceptable...=20
Are there any solutions out there???=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed, </FONT></DIV>
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I missed this one...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scott,</FONT></DIV>
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the moment,=20
STEM is not very user friendly (but everything does =
work). The code=20
was released in June and is still in "incubation", so I would classify =
it as=20
"not done yet". The reason it was released was to make it possible =
for=20
others to contribute to its development, including helping with the =
code, data,=20
mathematics, documentation, tutorials, NLS, etc. Right now we've got =
people=20
working on model mathematics (including the only Epidemiologist I know =
who can=20
also handle EMF!), BIRT integration, advanced transportation models=20
(e.g., people on airplanes, cows on trucks), NASA World Wind =
integration=20
(mostly done), batch processing, data set legalities, and GUI design, to =
name=20
just a few things going on. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please come join the team, we'd love to =
have your=20
help. The first thing you could do is use the Eclipse bugzilla to=20
report the things you think need attention. Follow this =
link: <A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=3DOHF">https:=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Daniel Ford<BR>IBM =
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Research Center<BR>San Jose, CA</DIV>
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wrote in message <A=20
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pse.org</A>...</DIV>Scott,<BR><BR>I've=20
added the OHF newsgroup to the "to" list of the reply. I assume =
you've=20
read<BR>
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=
href=3D" http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Installation_Guide#Running _Stem=
_as_a_standalone_application">http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Installat=
ion_Guide#Running_Stem_as_a_standalone_application</A><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>an=
d=20
that you've looked at the online help.<BR><BR>Keep in mind that =
Eclipse is an=20
open source project and hence your involvement in helping make it =
better will=20
be appreciated. There is a wiki where you could start to =
outline a=20
user's guide and hope that this will prompt the developers to help =
flesh it=20
out further:<A =
href=3D"http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/OHF#STEM"><BR></A>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A=20
=
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rg/index.php/OHF#STEM</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>With=20
EMF, if folks start a wiki document and ask me to review it, I =
typically feel=20
compelled to expand on it. The principle being that I tend =
to be=20
more inclined to help those who help themselves...<BR><BR><BR>Scott =
Winch=20
wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE =
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type=3D"cite">STEM is NOT user friendly software. A guide to how to =
use STEM=20
rather than the current guide on what STEM can do would be so much =
more=20
useful... It's like giving you a jet and telling you where you can =
go, but=20
no pilot!! <BR><BR>I have spent quite some time trying to navigate =
through=20
STEM only to find barrier after barrier. This is not a useful tool =
in an=20
outbreak setting because it is not user friendly, a fundamental =
principle in=20
I.T. systems!! <BR><BR>There should at least be on line tutorials =
which=20
would make it so much more acceptable... <BR><BR>Are there any =
solutions out=20
there??? <BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
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