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Mon, 01 August 2005 01:52

Eclipse User

The Eclipse Foundation is (finally) going to put a wiki on the
eclipse.org site for all the projects to use and collaborate through.
I'm curious if any of you have recommendations regarding the best wiki
software. The requirements are:

* The usual wiki stuff
* Attachments
* Logins using the eclipse.org unix logins as the security model
* Versioning
* Preferably using PHP and MySQL

PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
and/or other recommendations?

Thanks,
Bjorn

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #22651 is a reply to message #22606]

Mon, 01 August 2005 04:01

Eclipse User

Bjorn Freeman-Benson schrieb:

> PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
> perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
> and/or other recommendations?

I've used PmWiki in the past. It is very flexible and easy to extend
with "Cookbook recipes" or other custom PHP scripts. It doesn't need a
database because it stores the pages and attachments in the file system.
Thus, the administration overhead is very low.

The feature set is very rich and it should fit into the Eclipse.org
security model.

http://www.pmichaud.com/wiki/PmWiki/PmWikiFeatures

Another wiki software is MediaWiki, which runs the Wikipedia sites.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

Cu, Gunnar

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #22783 is a reply to message #22606]

Mon, 01 August 2005 15:42

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: zx.us.ibm.com

Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
> The Eclipse Foundation is (finally) going to put a wiki on the
> eclipse.org site for all the projects to use and collaborate through.
> I'm curious if any of you have recommendations regarding the best wiki
> software. The requirements are:
>
> * The usual wiki stuff
> * Attachments
> * Logins using the eclipse.org unix logins as the security model
> * Versioning
> * Preferably using PHP and MySQL
>
> PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
> perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
> and/or other recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Bjorn

Tikiwiki is very full featured. (http://www.tikiwiki.org)

Meets all your guidelines.

Cheers,

~ Chris

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23252 is a reply to message #22606]

Tue, 02 August 2005 16:30

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: bokowski.ca.ibm.com

I would recommend choosing a wiki software that supports namespaces, so that
each project gets its own sub-wiki. This allows to track changes to
sub-wikis, or searching only within a sub-wiki.

TWiki (http://www.twiki.org/) is one example of a wiki software that
supports namespaces.

See also this bugzilla entry:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=87949

Boris

"Bjorn Freeman-Benson" <bjorn.freeman-benson@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dckdb4$pbn$1@news.eclipse.org...
> The Eclipse Foundation is (finally) going to put a wiki on the
> eclipse.org site for all the projects to use and collaborate through.
> I'm curious if any of you have recommendations regarding the best wiki
> software. The requirements are:
>
> * The usual wiki stuff
> * Attachments
> * Logins using the eclipse.org unix logins as the security model
> * Versioning
> * Preferably using PHP and MySQL
>
> PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
> perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
> and/or other recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Bjorn

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23258 is a reply to message #23252]

Tue, 02 August 2005 16:54

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: zx.us.ibm.com

Boris Bokowski wrote:
> I would recommend choosing a wiki software that supports namespaces, so that
> each project gets its own sub-wiki. This allows to track changes to
> sub-wikis, or searching only within a sub-wiki.

Great suggestion, Tikiwiki supports sub-wikis.

~ Chris

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23266 is a reply to message #22783]

Wed, 03 August 2005 09:57

Eclipse User

Chris,
I looked at the tikiwiki manual
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki16pdfmanual. zip?download
and I couldn't see how to use an existing permissions system (unix
accounts or LDAP) as the security model (i.e., the logins and
passwords). I started reading at page 248, but it looks as if the users
have to be entered through the tikiwiki control panel. Can you clarify
for me?

>> * Logins using the eclipse.org unix logins as the security model
> Tikiwiki is very full featured. (http://www.tikiwiki.org)
> Meets all your guidelines.

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23280 is a reply to message #22651]

Wed, 03 August 2005 10:13

Eclipse User

Gunnar,
I looked at the PmWiki documentation, specifically
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/AuthUser but it says "Future support
is planned for other authentication schemes such as LDAP, Linux-PAM..."
Do you know of existing implementations for LDAP or unix
accounts-based authentication?

> I've used PmWiki in the past.
> The feature set is very rich and it should fit into the Eclipse.org
> security model.

> Another wiki software is MediaWiki, which runs the Wikipedia sites.
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23300 is a reply to message #22606]

Wed, 03 August 2005 12:22

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: jens.rehpoehler.bertelsmann.de

Maybe you should take a look at snip snap. It is written in java, has a
plug-in architecture and an available plug-in for LDAP authentication.

http://snipsnap.org/space/mvholste/LDAP+Authentication+Servi ce

Another interesting (cool) feature is the availability to write simple
UML diagrams (http://snipsnap.org/space/SnipGraph/UML+Example)

Regards,
Jens

Bjorn Freeman-Benson schrieb:
> The Eclipse Foundation is (finally) going to put a wiki on the
> eclipse.org site for all the projects to use and collaborate through.
> I'm curious if any of you have recommendations regarding the best wiki
> software. The requirements are:
>
> * The usual wiki stuff
> * Attachments
> * Logins using the eclipse.org unix logins as the security model
> * Versioning
> * Preferably using PHP and MySQL
>
> PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
> perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
> and/or other recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Bjorn

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23353 is a reply to message #23280]

Thu, 04 August 2005 04:28

Eclipse User

Bjorn Freeman-Benson schrieb:

> I looked at the PmWiki documentation, specifically
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/AuthUser but it says "Future support
> is planned for other authentication schemes such as LDAP, Linux-PAM..."
> Do you know of existing implementations for LDAP or unix accounts-based
> authentication?

No, you would have to write it on your own. I don't know how
easy/difficult that is. But I saw the dbauth.php module that is doing
the authentication agains a MySQL database with a few lines of code. It
doesn't seem to be too complex if you only authenticate users (with
username and password).

Cu, Gunnar

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23524 is a reply to message #22606]

Thu, 04 August 2005 22:55

Eclipse User

MediaWiki is my recommendation based on good experiences using it.
Namespaces are supported but you don't really want to use namespaces
except for very specialized things like help. Otherwise your information
gets siloed and hard to reorganize. MediaWiki is very easy to
reorganize. http://www.mediawiki.org

Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
> The Eclipse Foundation is (finally) going to put a wiki on the
> eclipse.org site for all the projects to use and collaborate through.
> I'm curious if any of you have recommendations regarding the best wiki
> software. The requirements are:
>

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #23733 is a reply to message #22606]

Fri, 12 August 2005 03:08

Eclipse User

Bjorn Freeman-Benson schrieb:
> PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
> perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
> and/or other recommendations?

From personal experience I do not recommend TikiWiki because it is hard
to maintain and it tries to be everything (wiki, forum, portal,...
whatever) but just doesn't have good quality and integration with all of
those features.
The majority of web pages that I'm visiting regularly and that created a
wiki during the last months used the MediaWiki software (e.g. Mozilla
wiki). But I'm not sure if that's because of quality and features or
simply because the MediaWiki software has become so well known just as a
side effect of the ever growing popularity of Wikipedia.

Ciao, Michael.

Re: Wiki Recommendations? [message #38653 is a reply to message #22606]

Mon, 14 August 2006 18:22

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: rohit.kumbhar.gmail.com

We are using Confluence at our organisation an it looks like a great
collaboration tool.
URL: http://confluence.atlassian.com/dashboard.action

Though its a commercially available product, they provide it free of
cost to Open Source projects

<snip url=http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/pricing.jsp>
Open Source

Atlassian supports and believes in the Open Source movement - Confluence
utilises a number of good Open Source components, and Atlassian
developers are committers on a large number of Open Source projects.

To give back to the community (and hopefully improve the quality of
those projects!), Confluence is free for any Open Source project to use.

There are a few requirements for an Open Source license, the main ones
being:

* Established code base
* Publicly available project website
* Using an approved open source license
</snip>

Maintaining it is not at all a hassle! [Doing it myself] Not to mention
the pluggable macros architecture.

Now this looks like a sales talk, but it isnt! :P

Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
> The Eclipse Foundation is (finally) going to put a wiki on the
> eclipse.org site for all the projects to use and collaborate through.
> I'm curious if any of you have recommendations regarding the best wiki
> software. The requirements are:
>
> * The usual wiki stuff
> * Attachments
> * Logins using the eclipse.org unix logins as the security model
> * Versioning
> * Preferably using PHP and MySQL
>
> PHPWiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) looks like a good match, but
> perhaps the Eclipse community has positive or negative experiences
> and/or other recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Bjorn

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