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| Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #214405] | Mon, 22 March 2004 11:48  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: schausson.genigraph.fr 
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for informations about the difference between
 an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
 differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
 something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
 eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
 plugin... )
 
 TIA,
 
 Sébastien
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| Re: Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #214699 is a reply to message #214405] | Tue, 23 March 2004 00:41   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Yeah, that is less than obvious at first -- in effect, within the eclipse world, there is only *one* application, eclipse, and one writes
 plugins to customize its behavior. Sometimes people want to remove
 nearly all of the supplied behavior (i.e., supplied plugins), supply
 their own set of plugins, add their own splash-screen, and ship the
 result, and that can be called an eclipse application. It is also
 possible to write what is called a "standalone SWT application", by
 using a certain dll, writing code that uses only the SWT widgets, and
 then packaging that dll and the rsulting class-files somehow: I suppose
 that could be called an eclipse application, too.
 
 Probably a better way of starting is to do what the main eclipse.org
 web-page suggests, which is to play around with plug-ins first, and see
 if what you want to do can be done that way, since eclipse makes that
 easier than the other ways.
 
 good luck!
 Paul
 
 Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:
 
 > Hi,
 >
 > I'm looking for informations about the difference between
 > an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
 > differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
 > something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
 > eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
 > plugin... )
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Sébastien
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| Re: Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #214756 is a reply to message #214699] | Tue, 23 March 2004 03:11   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: schausson.genigraph.fr 
 Thank you for your help !
 In fact, I wrote a standalone application, and I'd like to
 make workbench resources available to this application. If I
 understood what I read in this news, I have to convert my
 'standalone' application (no SWT in it) to a 'Eclipse application'.
 It seems that I have to implement IPlatformRunnable, and define
 such an extension to Eclipse platform :
 <extension id="coolApplication"
 point="org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications">
 <application>
 <run class="com.xyz.applications.Cool">
 <parameter name="optimize" value="true"/>
 </run>
 </application>
 </extension>
 
 Where do I define this ? In a "plugin.xml" file ? Will it allow me
 to call Eclipse in 'headless' mode to run my application ?
 
 TIA,
 
 Sebastien
 
 
 Paul T. Keyser a écrit :
 
 > Yeah, that is less than obvious at first -- in effect, within the
 > eclipse world, there is only *one* application, eclipse, and one writes
 > plugins to customize its behavior. Sometimes people want to remove
 > nearly all of the supplied behavior (i.e., supplied plugins), supply
 > their own set of plugins, add their own splash-screen, and ship the
 > result, and that can be called an eclipse application. It is also
 > possible to write what is called a "standalone SWT application", by
 > using a certain dll, writing code that uses only the SWT widgets, and
 > then packaging that dll and the rsulting class-files somehow: I suppose
 > that could be called an eclipse application, too.
 >
 > Probably a better way of starting is to do what the main eclipse.org
 > web-page suggests, which is to play around with plug-ins first, and see
 > if what you want to do can be done that way, since eclipse makes that
 > easier than the other ways.
 >
 > good luck!
 > Paul
 >
 > Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:
 >
 >
 >>Hi,
 >>
 >>I'm looking for informations about the difference between
 >>an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
 >>differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
 >>something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
 >>eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
 >>plugin... )
 >>
 >>TIA,
 >>
 >>Sébastien
 >
 >
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| Re: Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #215019 is a reply to message #214756] | Tue, 23 March 2004 14:20  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Yes, that must be in the plugin.xml, though I cannot vouch for the correctness of the XML, as I nearly always use the plugin.xml's GUI-centric
 editor. And I dunno about "headless", sorry.
 
 Paul
 
 Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:
 
 > Thank you for your help !
 > In fact, I wrote a standalone application, and I'd like to
 > make workbench resources available to this application. If I
 > understood what I read in this news, I have to convert my
 > 'standalone' application (no SWT in it) to a 'Eclipse application'.
 > It seems that I have to implement IPlatformRunnable, and define
 > such an extension to Eclipse platform :
 >     <extension id="coolApplication"
 > point="org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications">
 >        <application>
 >           <run class="com.xyz.applications.Cool">
 >              <parameter name="optimize" value="true"/>
 >           </run>
 >        </application>
 >     </extension>
 >
 > Where do I define this ? In a "plugin.xml" file ? Will it allow me
 > to call Eclipse in 'headless' mode to run my application ?
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Sebastien
 >
 > Paul T. Keyser a écrit :
 >
 > > Yeah, that is less than obvious at first -- in effect, within the
 > > eclipse world, there is only *one* application, eclipse, and one writes
 > > plugins to customize its behavior. Sometimes people want to remove
 > > nearly all of the supplied behavior (i.e., supplied plugins), supply
 > > their own set of plugins, add their own splash-screen, and ship the
 > > result, and that can be called an eclipse application. It is also
 > > possible to write what is called a "standalone SWT application", by
 > > using a certain dll, writing code that uses only the SWT widgets, and
 > > then packaging that dll and the rsulting class-files somehow: I suppose
 > > that could be called an eclipse application, too.
 > >
 > > Probably a better way of starting is to do what the main eclipse.org
 > > web-page suggests, which is to play around with plug-ins first, and see
 > > if what you want to do can be done that way, since eclipse makes that
 > > easier than the other ways.
 > >
 > > good luck!
 > > Paul
 > >
 > > Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >>Hi,
 > >>
 > >>I'm looking for informations about the difference between
 > >>an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
 > >>differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
 > >>something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
 > >>eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
 > >>plugin... )
 > >>
 > >>TIA,
 > >>
 > >>Sébastien
 > >
 > >
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