| Where does an eclipse user find the meaning of all the icon decorators? [message #208970] |
Fri, 04 May 2007 17:02  |
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Originally posted by: jeffrey.simon.comverse.com
Where does an eclipse user find the meaning of all the icon decorators?
There used to be a page in the help that listed the meanings of the
decorators, but I cannot find that page in the new version!
It's nice to have all these cute little icons (I guess), but if a user
doesn't know what they mean then it becomes pointless.
I can find massive amounts of documentation on how to create a decorator,
but I don't care about creating a decorator. I just want to know what the
decorators that appear in my project mean.
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| Re: Where does an eclipse user find the meaning of all the icon decorators? [message #209516 is a reply to message #209474] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 11:58  |
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Originally posted by: jeffrey.simon.comverse.com
I'm specifically asking about the decorators for the icons. So, for
example, one decorator is the yellow triangle with a red exclamation point
that is attached to a java file icon. I know what that decorator means.
But, what about all the others?
Where in the eclipse help system are the decorators documented? You can
find page after page of how to write plug-ins and for those plug-ins, how
to add decorators for your plug-ins. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE END USER?!!! My
guess is that all these decorators are NOT documented! So, they are
essentially useless.
There are a few things I like about eclipse, but there are many things I
don't like about eclipse. And the lack of proper documentation is one of
them. The fact that it is free makes the problem even worse because now
development management won't pay for a proper IDE...if one even exists
these days (I don't count anything by Microsoft.)
But nobody will write a proper IDE now because they have to compete will
all this free-ware, geek-ware. And so, we are stuck with this. IDE's
that are half-baked, and even less documented. Instead of making our jobs
easier, they are making it more difficult. I guess that explains why so
many people still write code using VI!!!
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| Re: Where does an eclipse user find the meaning of all the icon decorators? [message #209696 is a reply to message #209516] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 21:01 |
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Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com
Jeff wrote:
> I'm specifically asking about the decorators for the icons. So, for
> example, one decorator is the yellow triangle with a red exclamation
> point that is attached to a java file icon. I know what that decorator
> means. But, what about all the others?
> Where in the eclipse help system are the decorators documented? You can
> find page after page of how to write plug-ins and for those plug-ins,
> how to add decorators for your plug-ins. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE END
> USER?!!! My guess is that all these decorators are NOT documented! So,
> they are essentially useless.
>
> There are a few things I like about eclipse, but there are many things I
> don't like about eclipse. And the lack of proper documentation is one
> of them. The fact that it is free makes the problem even worse because
> now development management won't pay for a proper IDE...if one even
> exists these days (I don't count anything by Microsoft.)
>
> But nobody will write a proper IDE now because they have to compete will
> all this free-ware, geek-ware. And so, we are stuck with this. IDE's
> that are half-baked, and even less documented. Instead of making our
> jobs easier, they are making it more difficult. I guess that explains
> why so many people still write code using VI!!!
Let's see how much help that rant generates...
A little advice I'm sure you don't want: if you're looking for help or
acceptance of your ideas from a community, its probably not a good idea
to insult the very thing that is the center of that community.
Constructive criticism (for example, bug reports or enhancement requests
or, best of all, actual code or documentation contributions) is the way
to go, not rants that insult the people who have work very hard on a
product and those who help others for free.
Eric
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| Re: Where does an eclipse user find the meaning of all the icon decorators? [message #209738 is a reply to message #209516] |
Wed, 09 May 2007 00:38 |
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Jeff wrote:
> I'm specifically asking about the decorators for the icons. So, for
> example, one decorator is the yellow triangle with a red exclamation point
> that is attached to a java file icon. I know what that decorator means.
> But, what about all the others?
> Where in the eclipse help system are the decorators documented? You can
> find page after page of how to write plug-ins and for those plug-ins, how
> to add decorators for your plug-ins. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE END USER?!!! My
> guess is that all these decorators are NOT documented! So, they are
> essentially useless.
> There are a few things I like about eclipse, but there are many things I
> don't like about eclipse. And the lack of proper documentation is one of
> them. The fact that it is free makes the problem even worse because now
> development management won't pay for a proper IDE...if one even exists
> these days (I don't count anything by Microsoft.)
> But nobody will write a proper IDE now because they have to compete will
> all this free-ware, geek-ware. And so, we are stuck with this. IDE's
> that are half-baked, and even less documented. Instead of making our jobs
> easier, they are making it more difficult. I guess that explains why so
> many people still write code using VI!!!
What am I missing here? I'm using 3.2.2, and it appears to me that most if
not all of the icons and decorators are documented in the help. For
example, open Help Contents / Java Development User Guide / Reference /
Icons and you get a pretty large list. There is a yellow triangle with an
exclamation point (I think it's black) that means "this Java element
causes warning". Is the issue that there are some icons or decorators
missing from this list? If so, perhaps a bug report would be in order. I'm
sure the UA project can always use more help.
Regardless of whether a software product is commercial or open source,
it's up to us lowly users to report bugs and documentation issues if we
want to get them corrected. Thanks. Mark Dexter
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