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visual editor disappeared [message #19132] Mon, 16 February 2004 09:16 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mzach.ifmc.sdps.org

I had some goofy behavior from the VE. I tried to back out my changes,
but now I'm stuck with no visual editor at all. I just have a white
screen. There are no errors. How can I get it back?
Re: visual editor disappeared [message #19138 is a reply to message #19132] Mon, 16 February 2004 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.NO.SPAM.us.ibm.com

Try reinstalling it instead.

mzach wrote:

> I had some goofy behavior from the VE. I tried to back out my changes,
> but now I'm stuck with no visual editor at all. I just have a white
> screen. There are no errors. How can I get it back?
>

--
Thanks, Rich Kulp

Re: visual editor disappeared [message #19270 is a reply to message #19138] Tue, 17 February 2004 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mzach.ifmc.sdps.org

For anyone else who cares, I did get my VE back but only after closing
Eclipse and re-opening it. I've noticed similar behavior like this more
than once where restarting the IDE seems to flush some things out.

Rich Kulp wrote:
> Try reinstalling it instead.
>
> mzach wrote:
>
>> I had some goofy behavior from the VE. I tried to back out my changes,
>> but now I'm stuck with no visual editor at all. I just have a white
>> screen. There are no errors. How can I get it back?
>>
>
Re: visual editor disappeared [message #20177 is a reply to message #19270] Wed, 18 February 2004 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi mzach,

> For anyone else who cares, I did get my VE back but only after closing
> Eclipse and re-opening it. I've noticed similar behavior like this more
> than once where restarting the IDE seems to flush some things out.

What is the lowest thing you have to close and re-open. If you exit and
re-open the file being edited I presume that this doesn't fix it. What about
if you close the project and re-open it (from the project menu). If it is
the latter, do all attempts to open another VE in the same project fail, and
if so can you successfully open a VE in a separate project ?

For any attempt where it fails, is there anything interesting looking in the
..log file that might indicate a stack trace from some kind of Java exception
being thrown by the VE ?

Is there any re-createable scenario we might be able to try to re-create the
problem ? When you talk about "back out" is this a scenario where you have a
VE open and you then do things with the source like revert from local
history, load from repository current version, etc... or other things that
alter the source while the VE is up and running ?

Best regards,

Joe Winchester
Re: visual editor disappeared [message #20181 is a reply to message #20177] Thu, 19 February 2004 09:19 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mzach.ifmc.sdps.org

In some cases, some anomalies get resolved by closing the class without
saving and then re-opening the form in VE. But for me at least, the more
serious issues seem to get resolved when I close down the entire IDE and
then edit the file again. Up to now, I haven't had a situation where a
file was corrupt or irretrievable. There are time when I thought it was
close, but after repeated openings, I got back to where I left it.

When I say backout, I just mean after it starts going funky, I hit undo
to get back to the original state, or make manual changes to revert the
code. Nothing with source control.

I didn't know about the .log file. There are tons of exceptions in
there. However it is hard to tell what is caused by the VE and what is
caused by other project/cvs issues that are unrelated to the VE. I will
clear the log and take note of it now and report any findings. Thanks
for the tip.

Joe Winchester wrote:
> Hi mzach,
>
>
>>For anyone else who cares, I did get my VE back but only after closing
>>Eclipse and re-opening it. I've noticed similar behavior like this more
>>than once where restarting the IDE seems to flush some things out.
>
>
> What is the lowest thing you have to close and re-open. If you exit and
> re-open the file being edited I presume that this doesn't fix it. What about
> if you close the project and re-open it (from the project menu). If it is
> the latter, do all attempts to open another VE in the same project fail, and
> if so can you successfully open a VE in a separate project ?
>
> For any attempt where it fails, is there anything interesting looking in the
> .log file that might indicate a stack trace from some kind of Java exception
> being thrown by the VE ?
>
> Is there any re-createable scenario we might be able to try to re-create the
> problem ? When you talk about "back out" is this a scenario where you have a
> VE open and you then do things with the source like revert from local
> history, load from repository current version, etc... or other things that
> alter the source while the VE is up and running ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joe Winchester
>
Re: visual editor disappeared [message #581245 is a reply to message #19132] Mon, 16 February 2004 10:06 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.NO.SPAM.us.ibm.com

Try reinstalling it instead.

mzach wrote:

> I had some goofy behavior from the VE. I tried to back out my changes,
> but now I'm stuck with no visual editor at all. I just have a white
> screen. There are no errors. How can I get it back?
>

--
Thanks, Rich Kulp

Re: visual editor disappeared [message #581357 is a reply to message #19138] Tue, 17 February 2004 12:34 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mzach.ifmc.sdps.org

For anyone else who cares, I did get my VE back but only after closing
Eclipse and re-opening it. I've noticed similar behavior like this more
than once where restarting the IDE seems to flush some things out.

Rich Kulp wrote:
> Try reinstalling it instead.
>
> mzach wrote:
>
>> I had some goofy behavior from the VE. I tried to back out my changes,
>> but now I'm stuck with no visual editor at all. I just have a white
>> screen. There are no errors. How can I get it back?
>>
>
Re: visual editor disappeared [message #581795 is a reply to message #19270] Wed, 18 February 2004 19:11 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi mzach,

> For anyone else who cares, I did get my VE back but only after closing
> Eclipse and re-opening it. I've noticed similar behavior like this more
> than once where restarting the IDE seems to flush some things out.

What is the lowest thing you have to close and re-open. If you exit and
re-open the file being edited I presume that this doesn't fix it. What about
if you close the project and re-open it (from the project menu). If it is
the latter, do all attempts to open another VE in the same project fail, and
if so can you successfully open a VE in a separate project ?

For any attempt where it fails, is there anything interesting looking in the
..log file that might indicate a stack trace from some kind of Java exception
being thrown by the VE ?

Is there any re-createable scenario we might be able to try to re-create the
problem ? When you talk about "back out" is this a scenario where you have a
VE open and you then do things with the source like revert from local
history, load from repository current version, etc... or other things that
alter the source while the VE is up and running ?

Best regards,

Joe Winchester
Re: visual editor disappeared [message #581838 is a reply to message #20177] Thu, 19 February 2004 09:19 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mzach.ifmc.sdps.org

In some cases, some anomalies get resolved by closing the class without
saving and then re-opening the form in VE. But for me at least, the more
serious issues seem to get resolved when I close down the entire IDE and
then edit the file again. Up to now, I haven't had a situation where a
file was corrupt or irretrievable. There are time when I thought it was
close, but after repeated openings, I got back to where I left it.

When I say backout, I just mean after it starts going funky, I hit undo
to get back to the original state, or make manual changes to revert the
code. Nothing with source control.

I didn't know about the .log file. There are tons of exceptions in
there. However it is hard to tell what is caused by the VE and what is
caused by other project/cvs issues that are unrelated to the VE. I will
clear the log and take note of it now and report any findings. Thanks
for the tip.

Joe Winchester wrote:
> Hi mzach,
>
>
>>For anyone else who cares, I did get my VE back but only after closing
>>Eclipse and re-opening it. I've noticed similar behavior like this more
>>than once where restarting the IDE seems to flush some things out.
>
>
> What is the lowest thing you have to close and re-open. If you exit and
> re-open the file being edited I presume that this doesn't fix it. What about
> if you close the project and re-open it (from the project menu). If it is
> the latter, do all attempts to open another VE in the same project fail, and
> if so can you successfully open a VE in a separate project ?
>
> For any attempt where it fails, is there anything interesting looking in the
> .log file that might indicate a stack trace from some kind of Java exception
> being thrown by the VE ?
>
> Is there any re-createable scenario we might be able to try to re-create the
> problem ? When you talk about "back out" is this a scenario where you have a
> VE open and you then do things with the source like revert from local
> history, load from repository current version, etc... or other things that
> alter the source while the VE is up and running ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joe Winchester
>
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