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My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1852644] Sun, 29 May 2022 12:24 Go to next message
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Hi,

after some years of Apple abstinence I purchased an Apple Silicon M1 based Apple MacBook Pro 13 as my new traveling laptop. Just because last week my Microsoft Surface Book 3 13.5 ceased life :-(

Overall performance is fair, but somehow the startup time is long, unexpected long. In my current scenario the MacBook Pro 13 requires a whooping 45s to fire up Papyrus and load the project. An Intel i5 1025G7 based Microsoft Surface Book 3 13.5 running Windows 11 did the job in 25s after some optimizations (mainly registering Papyrus as a trusted application).

Having loaded the project everything is working smooth. Not outstanding fast, but smooth. No disturbing lags at all.

The touch pad is extremely precise and reacts any notable lag. The screen is crisp. Both touch pad and screen are IMHO superior to the Microsoft Surface Book 3 13.5 or even a Lenovo Thinkpad X12.

Where the MacBook really shines is battery lifetime. Both with the Microsoft Surface Book 3 13.5 and the Lenovo Thinkpad X12 I had an effective 4 to 5 hours battery lifetime using Papyrus on Windows 11 resp. 10. The MacBook Pro 13 delivers a whooping 12 to 14 hours. This makes a huge difference to me.

/Carsten

[Updated on: Sun, 29 May 2022 12:32] by Moderator

Re: My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1852732 is a reply to message #1852644] Thu, 02 June 2022 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Carsten,

Thanks for the feedback and congrats for the new laptop. From what I heard its a banger of a little one ! Even so, your battery life is unbelievable, This makes me want to come to the dark side of the macbook ^^

We'll try to look at the increased boot time as it seems very long indeed, especially with your current processor.

Cheers,
/Quentin
Re: My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1852740 is a reply to message #1852732] Thu, 02 June 2022 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Quentin,
my i5 7200 based Fujitsu A555 laptop needs a 50s, my AMD Ryzen5 5600 based laptop a 20s.
Current model size is 6.8MBytes (uncompressed). The model is split into ~180 submodels to be better shared via GIT.
No "hello world" but neither a big model.
/Carsten
Re: My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1852749 is a reply to message #1852740] Thu, 02 June 2022 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As an addition, my desktop runs Linux. Currently Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.

And yes I use Papyrus on all three officially supported platforms
* Windows 10 (AMD64)
* Linux (AMD64)
* Mac OS (ARM64)

Is support planned for Linux (ARM64)?


Re: My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1852882 is a reply to message #1852749] Thu, 09 June 2022 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Carsten,

To the best of my knowledge there is no ARM support in the works. I did not look at it but depending on the compilation/testing impact that could be considered.

Cheers,
/Quentin
Re: My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1853095 is a reply to message #1852882] Fri, 17 June 2022 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Quentin,

I think the Linux ARM 64 version should run smoothly, I made a build of Sim4Sys (based on Papyrus 5.0) for this platform and it was used without special issue. I just added the target in the pom.xml file used by maven tycho. The available papyrus version for MacOS is for AMD64 or ARM64 target? (I though it was for AMD only).
Regards.
Re: My experience with Papyrus on a M1 based MacBook [message #1853221 is a reply to message #1853095] Thu, 23 June 2022 07:55 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Yoann,

to the best of my knowledge it should be AMD64 indeed. If we only need to add a target for ARM64 in the tycho/xml environment it would not cost us too much indeed. I'll try to look into it soonish.

Thanks for the info !
Cheers,
/Quentin
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