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old "Latest" Product installations, startup tasks and mars release [message #1699583]

Thu, 25 June 2015 04:54

Eclipse User

Hello,

since mars release, the startup task tries to install from the Mars-Updatesite into a Luna Eclipse (and fails because of conflicting dependencies).

I guess this is because I chose "Latest (Luna)" during install. With the Mars release this was automagically changed to "Latest (Mars)", I had to change the installation.setup manually to "Luna" to fix the update failure during startup and stay at Luna.

Is oomph supposed to be able to upgrade eclipse to the next release? Otherwise it might be better if this property does not change on its own (and it might be wise to ask the user anyways beforehand as this might cause other trouble).

Re: old "Latest" Product installations, startup tasks and mars release [message #1699587 is a reply to message #1699583]

Thu, 25 June 2015 05:16

Eclipse User

Christian,

Certainly Oomph tries to update to the latest, and that is definitely
the purpose of specifying latest, (so you'll start getting Neon things
as soon as they're available) but it might be the case that the IUs
themselves are preventing such updates. Open a bugzilla as we'll test
what exactly is preventing the update; certainly there's nothing
intrinsically wrong with updating Luna to Mars, and certainly when the
first Neon milestones come out, the intent is to be able to update to
those as well.

On 25/06/2015 10:54 AM, Christian D wrote:
> Hello,
>
> since mars release, the startup task tries to install from the
> Mars-Updatesite into a Luna Eclipse (and fails because of conflicting
> dependencies).
>
> I guess this is because I chose "Latest (Luna)" during install. With
> the Mars release this was automagically changed to "Latest (Mars)", I
> had to change the installation.setup manually to "Luna" to fix the
> update failure during startup and stay at Luna.
>
> Is oomph supposed to be able to upgrade eclipse to the next release?
> Otherwise it might be better if this property does not change on its
> own (and it might be wise to ask the user anyways beforehand as this
> might cause other trouble).

Re: old "Latest" Product installations, startup tasks and mars release [message #1700301 is a reply to message #1699587]

Wed, 01 July 2015 10:59

Eclipse User

I also met the same issue with an already installed version of Eclipse Luna. When you have a Luna version and you want to 'Helps -> Perform setup tasks ...' it forces the update to Mars but initially you chose Luna and the Installation failed.

In my opnion, it should keep the platform version i.e. Luna (because all my plugins and setup is relevant to Luna).

Is there a way to force to Luna instead of Mars ? I tried with property

eclipse.target.platform = Luna

but without effect.

Re: old &quot;Latest&quot; Product installations, startup tasks and mars release [message #1700303 is a reply to message #1700301]

Wed, 01 July 2015 11:19

Eclipse User

Hi Johan,

Comments below...

Cheers
/Eike

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Am 01.07.2015 um 16:59 schrieb Johan Hardy:
> I also met the same issue with an already installed version of Eclipse Luna. When you have a Luna version and you want
> to 'Helps -> Perform setup tasks ...' it forces the update to Mars but initially you chose Luna and the Installation
> failed.
>
> In my opnion, it should keep the platform version i.e. Luna (because all my plugins and setup is relevant to Luna).
I suspect you didn't really pick "Luna" but "Latest Release (Luna)". To clarify that, can you please attach the XML
content of your installation.setup file? There's an "Open in Text Editor" action in the context menu when you have the
Installation Setup file open.

"Latest Release (Luna)" means "Install Luna now and always update to the latest release". And of course the latest
release has now changed to be Mars.

>
> Is there a way to force to Luna instead of Mars ? I tried with property eclipse.target.platform = Luna but without
> effect.
No, that only impacts a possible PDE target platform.

Re: old &quot;Latest&quot; Product installations, startup tasks and mars release [message #1700352 is a reply to message #1700303]

Thu, 02 July 2015 02:53

Eclipse User

Dear Elke,

Many thanks for your prompt reply. Indeed, my installation.setup was pointing to Latest release. I did a try and I specified Luna and the process 'Helps -> Perform setup tasks ...' did the update for Luna ! Good to know Smile

Best regards;
Johan

Re: old &amp;quot;Latest&amp;quot; Product installations, startup tasks and mars rel [message #1700368 is a reply to message #1700352]

Thu, 02 July 2015 04:02

Eclipse User

Am 02.07.2015 um 08:53 schrieb Johan Hardy:
> Dear Elke,
>
> Many thanks for your prompt reply. Indeed, my installation.setup was pointing to Latest release. I did a try and I
> specified Luna and the process 'Helps -> Perform setup tasks ...' did the update for Luna ! Good to know :)
Perfect. We also discussed whether it would help to avoid this problem if we changed the labels of these special
versions, e.g., from "Latest Release (Luna)" to "Luna (updates to latest release)". What do you think?

Cheers
/Eike

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http://thegordian.blogspot.com
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Re: old &amp;quot;Latest&amp;quot; Product installations, startup tasks and mars rel [message #1700417 is a reply to message #1700368]

Thu, 02 July 2015 09:08

Eclipse User

Hi, Eike,

I think "Latest Release (currently Luna)" would be better.

cW

On 2015-07-02 08:02:52 +0000, Eike Stepper said:

> Am 02.07.2015 um 08:53 schrieb Johan Hardy:
>> Dear Elke,
>>
>> Many thanks for your prompt reply. Indeed, my installation.setup was
>> pointing to Latest release. I did a try and I specified Luna and the
>> process 'Helps -> Perform setup tasks ...' did the update for Luna !
>> Good to know :)
> Perfect. We also discussed whether it would help to avoid this problem
> if we changed the labels of these special versions, e.g., from "Latest
> Release (Luna)" to "Luna (updates to latest release)". What do you
> think?
>
> Cheers
> /Eike
>
> ----
> http://www.esc-net.de
> http://thegordian.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/eikestepper

Re: old &amp;quot;Latest&amp;quot; Product installations, startup tasks and mars rel [message #1700435 is a reply to message #1700417]

Thu, 02 July 2015 10:41

Eclipse User

Am 02.07.2015 um 15:08 schrieb Christian W. Damus:
> Hi, Eike,
>
> I think "Latest Release (currently Luna)" would be better.
That would also be fine for me. Can one of you please submit a bugzilla?

Cheers
/Eike

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