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Gui Form Developement help [message #16015] Mon, 05 August 2002 21:44 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: pervaz.att.net

A newbie here.

I downloaded ecclipse a couple of days ago and had a few questions.

Does ecclipse have a Gui for developing forms - swing and/or awt. Your
standard sun Forte type of deal and if yes how do I get to it.

Same question with with UML type developement.

I want to use it for basic java IDE but can't seem to get very much other
than than a very good java editor with a fast object dictionary.

The update manager says no new udates. There is a list of disabled plugins
which look like Api's for developement (which I cannot seem to enable),
but not a gui developement tool in themselves.

I am still mystified by the JFace and SWT deal I do not see any signs of
them as a form builders.

I like what I have seen so far and am convinced there is more to this
thing hidden somewhere and I should be able to see by some magic spell.

I have gone through the help a couple of times. Is there a list of plugins
I could get to somehow.

I apologise if this is not the right forum; If so which is the right forum.

Thanking you
Pervaz
Re: Gui Form Developement help [message #16034 is a reply to message #16015] Mon, 05 August 2002 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: scott.beq.ca

> Does ecclipse have a Gui for developing forms - swing and/or awt. Your
> standard sun Forte type of deal and if yes how do I get to it.

No, there is currently no GUI builder (for Swing or anything else) in Eclipse.

>
> Same question with with UML type developement.

There are a few plugins being developed. Look around at http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/1.

> I want to use it for basic java IDE but can't seem to get very much other
> than than a very good java editor with a fast object dictionary.

You should go through the documentation. There's a lot more too it than that, including a really fast incremental compiler, refactoring tools, integration with CVS and a number of other VCMs,
and a solid, extensible design.

> I am still mystified by the JFace and SWT deal I do not see any signs of
> them as a form builders.

JFace and SWT were primarily developed for Eclipse itself, though more than a few people are starting to use them for other projects as well. Still, no GUI builder.

> I like what I have seen so far and am convinced there is more to this
> thing hidden somewhere and I should be able to see by some magic spell.

The Wiki (link above) is a good place for finding out all the little details about Eclipse.

> I apologise if this is not the right forum; If so which is the right forum.

Next time use eclipse.tools. This forum is for discussion of experimental Eclipse projects.

Scott
Re: Gui Form Developement help [message #16052 is a reply to message #16015] Tue, 06 August 2002 08:34 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
"Pervaz (perez) Allaudin" <pervaz@att.net> wrote in message
news:ain9m0$4rg$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
> Does ecclipse have a Gui for developing forms - swing and/or awt.

No. IBM is working on a Swing GUI builder for inclusion in its commercial
Eclipse-based tools (like WebSphere Studio Application Developer). We also
sell a commercial Eclipse add-on that adds more than 150 new features to
Eclipse including the ability to use the VisualAge Java GUI builder within
Eclipse...

http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/docs/features/vce/
http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/docs/

-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
mailto:cpsws-support@instantiations.com
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/
Re: Gui Form Developement help [message #572292 is a reply to message #16015] Mon, 05 August 2002 23:29 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
> Does ecclipse have a Gui for developing forms - swing and/or awt. Your
> standard sun Forte type of deal and if yes how do I get to it.

No, there is currently no GUI builder (for Swing or anything else) in Eclipse.

>
> Same question with with UML type developement.

There are a few plugins being developed. Look around at http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/1

> I want to use it for basic java IDE but can't seem to get very much other
> than than a very good java editor with a fast object dictionary.

You should go through the documentation. There's a lot more too it than that, including a really fast incremental compiler, refactoring tools, integration with CVS and a number of other VCMs,
and a solid, extensible design.

> I am still mystified by the JFace and SWT deal I do not see any signs of
> them as a form builders.

JFace and SWT were primarily developed for Eclipse itself, though more than a few people are starting to use them for other projects as well. Still, no GUI builder.

> I like what I have seen so far and am convinced there is more to this
> thing hidden somewhere and I should be able to see by some magic spell.

The Wiki (link above) is a good place for finding out all the little details about Eclipse.

> I apologise if this is not the right forum; If so which is the right forum.

Next time use eclipse.tools. This forum is for discussion of experimental Eclipse projects.

Scott
Re: Gui Form Developement help [message #572317 is a reply to message #16015] Tue, 06 August 2002 08:34 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
"Pervaz (perez) Allaudin" <pervaz@att.net> wrote in message
news:ain9m0$4rg$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
> Does ecclipse have a Gui for developing forms - swing and/or awt.

No. IBM is working on a Swing GUI builder for inclusion in its commercial
Eclipse-based tools (like WebSphere Studio Application Developer). We also
sell a commercial Eclipse add-on that adds more than 150 new features to
Eclipse including the ability to use the VisualAge Java GUI builder within
Eclipse...

http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/docs/features/vce/
http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/docs/

-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
mailto:cpsws-support@instantiations.com
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/
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