| Need Help With Eclipse & Callisto C/C++ Application [message #159070] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 02:28  |
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Originally posted by: mhubele.gmail.com
Hi I just downloaded Eclipse and installed the Callisto C/C++ plugin and I
have ran into some problems.
First I have some C files I made already(in Jedit) and I would like them
in Eclipse so I can run/compile and debug them.
I also tried making a new project folder with a new source.c file and I
tried to just see how the compiler and debugger works so I just made a
little "hello World"(same as in the tutorial from Callisto).
I tried to run it just like they did in the video but I keep getting this
error
I go to my project for and right click and go down to run as and choose "1
run local c/c++ application"
but when I click this I get a error:
Application Error(header name)
launch failed no binaries.
I don't know what that even means.
Also I have another question what is "Make" when I go to new project
everything is "standard MAKE C project" plus a whole alot of otherones.
I am pretty new to C programming and I am pretty happy with Jedit but it
lacks a debugger so I want to see how it is.
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| Re: Need Help With Eclipse & Callisto C/C++ Application [message #159117 is a reply to message #159070] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 23:20  |
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Michael wrote:
> Hi I just downloaded Eclipse and installed the Callisto C/C++ plugin and
> I have ran into some problems.
Without reading anything? ... you didn't look over the CDT project's web
pages, maybe check out a tutorial, scan through the eclipse.tools.cdt
newsgroup (I mention it up front as you might find your questions more
readily answered over in the newsgroup dedicated to that project)... no
up front efforts to learn about the tool? Just download and go?
> First I have some C files I made already(in Jedit) and I would like them
> in Eclipse so I can run/compile and debug them.
So what did you try? Cut-and-paste to new files? File => Import?? Might
I suggest starting with Help => Help Contents => C/C++ Development User
Guide??
Yes, I too have had a "if I have to read the documentation, it's too
hard!" mentality... and maybe with Europa (next release after current
Callisto) we'll aim for a better "user experience" ... but for now, this
isn't all that intuitively obvious! That's even more true for more
"fringe" products than with the original core products like the JDT!
> I also tried making a new project folder with a new source.c file and I
> tried to just see how the compiler and debugger works so I just made a
> little "hello World"(same as in the tutorial from Callisto).
So you did read something?? But what... I just tried <
http://www.eclipse.org > => "Callisto is Here" => I build C/C++
Applications => CDT Tutorials which takes me to importing existing code
into standard and managed make projects. Hmm.... these look pretty
useless, unless I'm missing some animated tutorial thingie ... Okay, I
opened bugzilla #149388 (<
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149388 >) on this... sigh.
> I tried to run it just like they did in the video but I keep getting
> this error
>
> I go to my project for and right click and go down to run as and choose
> "1 run local c/c++ application"
>
> but when I click this I get a error:
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> Application Error(header name)
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> launch failed no binaries.
Let's see... I seem to recall several messages in eclipse.tools.cdt on
that one... having to do with "specifying the binary parser" ...
searching for that error over on the other newsgroup leads to a message
saying to check some Project => Properties ... that no longer exist.
Hmmm, the C/C++ Build area has a Binary Parser tab ... mine works, and I
have PE Windows Parser checked... what is your underlying compilation
environment? Mine is Cygwin ... yet I don't have to check "Cygwin PE
Parser"? Weird...
> I don't know what that even means.
Something to do with verifying that something you're trying to run is
truly an executable Eclipse CDT can deal with. On a usability scale of
1-10, I'd give it about a 1.2 ... so I agree with your sentiment!
> Also I have another question what is "Make" when I go to new project
> everything is "standard MAKE C project" plus a whole alot of otherones.
Make as a general concept if a program and way of specifying the
dependencies so that a project can be built with the minimal amount of
compilation/linking/whatever. "Standard Make" means *you write the
makefile*. If you're not sure about this, you want "Managed Make" (it
writes the makefile for you.
> I am pretty new to C programming and I am pretty happy with Jedit but it
> lacks a debugger so I want to see how it is.
My sympathies. I love Eclipse, I'm proud of the Callisto project, and
I'm hoping desperately that we'll either get our act together on
"usability" or else stop publishing this as a user product and just
target it at the original audience... those wanting to extend the
capability to "usable" commercial products... with a strong preference
for us doing the former.
This isn't rocket science... I'm sorry we're making it so difficult for
you! Hang in there!! Read the online help. Go to the other newsgroup and
browse around... post questions there... file bugzillas for broken
things... like I just did... maybe even file a "what do they mean there
are no binaries at launch" bugzilla... assuming one's not already been
filed. Help us make it all better!
--
RDS
Randy D. Smith randy (dot) d (dot) smith (at) intel (dot) com
Eclipse TPTP Committer, Platform Proj (data collection/agent controller)
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| Re: Need Help With Eclipse & Callisto C/C++ Application [message #159395 is a reply to message #159322] |
Mon, 03 July 2006 13:35 |
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David Kerber wrote:
> In article <e87e1o$fml$1@utils.eclipse.org>, randy.d.smith@intel.com
> says...
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> ...
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>>My sympathies. I love Eclipse, I'm proud of the Callisto project, and
>>I'm hoping desperately that we'll either get our act together on
>>"usability" or else stop publishing this as a user product and just
>>target it at the original audience... those wanting to extend the
>>capability to "usable" commercial products... with a strong preference
>>for us doing the former.
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> Interesting statements from one of the developers!! I'm assuming this
> refers mainly to the C/C++ development stuff in Eclipse? I'm finding
> the core java and the WTP pieces quite nice from an end-user developer
> standpoint, as well as the CFEclipse plugin. I don't do C, though.
I'm just a rabble-rouser from a niche off to the side (TPTP), not a
developer in any of the "important" areas! :-)
My main frustration in the post you referred to was directed at CDT,
which IS behind the curve as compared to JDT (but then look at the
disparity in resources and time to "mellow" and it's not doing that
bade). However, I'm frustrated overall with our lack of out-of-the-box
usability. (Maybe that's the problem... that we don't create a "box"! :-) )
I get frustrated by discussions like one I just read that seemed to say
we could either be "light and fluffy" like NetFullaBeans or "a better
platform" like Eclipse. I think we can be who we are and STILL have a
good initial user experience! And I don't think it would be that hard to
achieve.
For an idea of what frustrates me, check out <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=146603 >. Callisto brought
us simultaneous release of 10 projects... I'm hoping Europa has us get a
more coherent unified vision.
--
RDS
Randy D. Smith randy (dot) d (dot) smith (at) intel (dot) com
Eclipse TPTP Committer, Platform Proj (data collection/agent controller)
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