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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #140822 is a reply to message #140800] | 
Thu, 20 September 2007 16:34    | 
 
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I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff.  In the end, these are the steps that worked for me.  Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, just one working solution. 
 
1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
2b) org.eclipse.wst 
2c) org.eclipse.jst 
2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
 
name=WTP 
id=org.eclipse.wst 
version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
 
3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
4) Install the build of VE: 
4a) Go to  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
 
name=Visual Editor 
id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
version=1.3.0.200709121813 
 
4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #140874 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Fri, 21 September 2007 08:45    | 
 
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com 
 
Chris, 
 
Someone needs to open a request for WTP to provide a feature purely for  
JEM.  VE should not need to go through all this to pick up JEM!  Note  
that EMF itself has been decomposed in a large number of small features  
so we've already tried to be helpful in this regard.  What I'd like to  
see for all projects is that they specify a project file set that allows  
anyone to extract the components for that project directly from CVS.   
We'll try to accomplish this in the modeling project first before we  
start pointing fingers at others for not doing this.   :-P   It's  
important for an open community to make it easy for anyone to build the  
project and to be able to work like the developers of the project so  
that they can contribute high quality patches, including JUnit tests for  
their additional capabilities.  Thanks for sharing your experience so  
that others can reuse it.  Probably this information should go in a wiki  
so that it's easy to find and easy to update as things change... 
 
 
Chris Dolan wrote: 
> I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff.  In the end, these are the steps that worked for me.  Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, just one working solution. 
> 
> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
> 2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
> 2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
> 2b) org.eclipse.wst 
> 2c) org.eclipse.jst 
> 2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
> 3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
> 3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
> 3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
> 3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
> 3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
> 3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=WTP 
> id=org.eclipse.wst 
> version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
> 
> 3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
> 4) Install the build of VE: 
> 4a) Go to  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
> 4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
> 4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
> 4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
> 4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
> 4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=Visual Editor 
> id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
> version=1.3.0.200709121813 
> 
> 4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above 
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #141145 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Sun, 23 September 2007 20:04    | 
 
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"Chris Dolan" <christopher_dolan@avid.com> wrote in message 
news:155712966.30271190320497180.JavaMail.root@cp9.dzone.com... 
> I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff.  In the end, these are 
the steps that worked for me.  Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, 
just one working solution. 
> 
> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
> 2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
> 2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
> 2b) org.eclipse.wst 
> 2c) org.eclipse.jst 
> 2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
> 3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the 
authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
> 3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
> 3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
> 3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
> 3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
> 3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=WTP 
> id=org.eclipse.wst 
> version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
> 
> 3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
> 4) Install the build of VE: 
> 4a) Go to 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
> 4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
> 4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
> 4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " 
org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
> 4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
> 4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=Visual Editor 
> id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
> version=1.3.0.200709121813 
> 
> 4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above 
 
Hey that is a cool step by step guide :-) 
Note:The .eclipseextension can be empty. the content does not matter mostly. 
Could you do something for all of us? 
Add those steps and instructions to that wiki page: 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing 
Then as soon as we have anofficial build we can update it :-) 
Thanks!
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #141195 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Wed, 26 September 2007 19:34    | 
 
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"Chris Dolan" <christopher_dolan@avid.com> wrote in message 
> I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff. 
>In the end, these are the steps that worked for me. 
>Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, just one working solution. 
 
Chris I added you rinstructions to that wiki page: 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing 
Thanks again! 
All feel free to edit the page as needed if the step do not work for you. 
 
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Cheers, Philippe 
http://www.nexb.com - http://eclipse.org/ve - http://eclipse.org/atf  - 
http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net 
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> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
> 2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
> 2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
> 2b) org.eclipse.wst 
> 2c) org.eclipse.jst 
> 2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
> 3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the 
authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
> 3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
> 3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
> 3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
> 3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
> 3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=WTP 
> id=org.eclipse.wst 
> version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
> 
> 3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
> 4) Install the build of VE: 
> 4a) Go to 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
> 4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
> 4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
> 4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " 
org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
> 4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
> 4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=Visual Editor 
> id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
> version=1.3.0.200709121813 
> 
> 4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #142237 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Tue, 23 October 2007 14:50   | 
 
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Originally posted by: njagan.gmail.com 
 
Hi Chris, 
 
  Thanks for the detailed instructions. I had spent more than a week and  
was really going totally crazy with VE & Europa. Your article really  
helped me immensely. 
 
  Thanks again!  
 
  Cheers!!!
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616573 is a reply to message #140341] | 
Thu, 20 September 2007 12:32   | 
 
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Philippe,  
 
Thanks for your efforts!  I'm trying out your Sept 12 build, but have not had success.  I did the following: 
  * unpacked the .zip 
  * changed the folder name to "eclipse" 
  * created a .eclipseextension file 
  * went to Help>Software Updates>Manage Configuration 
  * Add an Extension location 
  * selected my "eclipse" folder above 
  * restarted 
 
Now I see VE in my plugin list via 
  Help>About Eclipse Platform>Plug-in Details 
However, I don't see any of the VE features (Visual class not listed in New... and no Visual Editor option under right-click>Open With...) 
 
I have GEF 3.2.100.v20070529 and EMF v2.3.9.v200706262000 installed under Eclipse 3.3.0 (not EasyEclipse). 
 
Any ideas?
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616574 is a reply to message #140726] | 
Thu, 20 September 2007 12:40   | 
 
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Chris, 
 
I assume you mean EMF 2.3.0.  You likely need to run eclipse.exe -clean  
to update the configuration.  If things still fail, run with -clean  
-debug and look at the Error log for clues about what might be failing  
to activate and why. 
 
 
Chris Dolan wrote: 
> Philippe,  
> 
> Thanks for your efforts!  I'm trying out your Sept 12 build, but have not had success.  I did the following: 
>   * unpacked the .zip 
>   * changed the folder name to "eclipse" 
>   * created a .eclipseextension file 
>   * went to Help>Software Updates>Manage Configuration 
>   * Add an Extension location 
>   * selected my "eclipse" folder above 
>   * restarted 
> 
> Now I see VE in my plugin list via 
>   Help>About Eclipse Platform>Plug-in Details 
> However, I don't see any of the VE features (Visual class not listed in New... and no Visual Editor option under right-click>Open With...) 
> 
> I have GEF 3.2.100.v20070529 and EMF v2.3.9.v200706262000 installed under Eclipse 3.3.0 (not EasyEclipse). 
> 
> Any ideas? 
>
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616577 is a reply to message #140734] | 
Thu, 20 September 2007 14:41   | 
 
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> Chris, 
>  
> I assume you mean EMF 2.3.0.  You likely need to run 
> eclipse.exe -clean  
> to update the configuration.  If things still fail, 
> run with -clean  
> -debug and look at the Error log for clues about what 
> might be failing  
> to activate and why. 
 
Oh, right, I meant 2.3.0.  I did some more digging and it appears my problem is that I lack JEM 2.0.0.  I'm currently following Eric's advice ( http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.tools.ve/msg07 104.html) and am trying to install the WTP SDK, but it's a confusing process.
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616578 is a reply to message #140790] | 
Thu, 20 September 2007 14:45   | 
 
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Chris, 
 
The log is good for describing problems like missing plugins, so it's a  
good idea to look closely at that for clues.  I'm sure the log will say  
that JEM is missing, for example. 
 
Chris Dolan wrote: 
> > Chris, 
> >  
> > I assume you mean EMF 2.3.0.  You likely need to run 
> > eclipse.exe -clean  
> > to update the configuration.  If things still fail, 
> > run with -clean  
> > -debug and look at the Error log for clues about what 
> > might be failing  
> > to activate and why. 
> 
> Oh, right, I meant 2.3.0.  I did some more digging and it appears my problem is that I lack JEM 2.0.0.  I'm currently following Eric's advice ( http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.tools.ve/msg07 104.html) and am trying to install the WTP SDK, but it's a confusing process. 
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616580 is a reply to message #140800] | 
Thu, 20 September 2007 16:34   | 
 
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I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff.  In the end, these are the steps that worked for me.  Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, just one working solution. 
 
1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
2b) org.eclipse.wst 
2c) org.eclipse.jst 
2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
 
name=WTP 
id=org.eclipse.wst 
version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
 
3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
4) Install the build of VE: 
4a) Go to  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
 
name=Visual Editor 
id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
version=1.3.0.200709121813 
 
4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616584 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Fri, 21 September 2007 08:45   | 
 
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Chris, 
 
Someone needs to open a request for WTP to provide a feature purely for  
JEM.  VE should not need to go through all this to pick up JEM!  Note  
that EMF itself has been decomposed in a large number of small features  
so we've already tried to be helpful in this regard.  What I'd like to  
see for all projects is that they specify a project file set that allows  
anyone to extract the components for that project directly from CVS.   
We'll try to accomplish this in the modeling project first before we  
start pointing fingers at others for not doing this.   :-P   It's  
important for an open community to make it easy for anyone to build the  
project and to be able to work like the developers of the project so  
that they can contribute high quality patches, including JUnit tests for  
their additional capabilities.  Thanks for sharing your experience so  
that others can reuse it.  Probably this information should go in a wiki  
so that it's easy to find and easy to update as things change... 
 
 
Chris Dolan wrote: 
> I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff.  In the end, these are the steps that worked for me.  Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, just one working solution. 
> 
> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
> 2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
> 2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
> 2b) org.eclipse.wst 
> 2c) org.eclipse.jst 
> 2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
> 3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
> 3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
> 3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
> 3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
> 3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
> 3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=WTP 
> id=org.eclipse.wst 
> version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
> 
> 3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
> 4) Install the build of VE: 
> 4a) Go to  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
> 4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
> 4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
> 4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
> 4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
> 4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=Visual Editor 
> id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
> version=1.3.0.200709121813 
> 
> 4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above 
>
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616602 is a reply to message #141045] | 
Tue, 25 September 2007 02:31   | 
 
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Hello Erik, 
 
> Here is the link again where you can find my (non-official) version. 
> http://www.ehecht.com/eclipse_ve/ve.html 
 
Which kind of the wtp package should be installed to have "jem" 
in my windows installation of Europe? 
 
the "Web Tools Platform All-In-One Packages" (~260M win) 
-> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-2.0-200706260303-win32.zip 
 
the "Web Tools Platform Complete" (~37M win) 
-> wtp-R-2.0-200706260303.zip 
 
or the "Web Standard Tools" (~18M win) 
-> wtp-wst-R-2.0-200706260303.zip 
 
Thomas
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616605 is a reply to message #141067] | 
Tue, 25 September 2007 09:30   | 
 
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> Hello Erik, 
>  
> > Here is the link again where you can find my 
> (non-official) version. 
> > http://www.ehecht.com/eclipse_ve/ve.html 
>  
> Which kind of the wtp package should be installed to 
> have "jem" 
> in my windows installation of Europe? 
>  
> the "Web Tools Platform All-In-One Packages" (~260M 
> win) 
> -> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-2.0-200706260303-win32.zip 
>  
> the "Web Tools Platform Complete" (~37M win) 
> -> wtp-R-2.0-200706260303.zip 
>  
> or the "Web Standard Tools" (~18M win) 
> -> wtp-wst-R-2.0-200706260303.zip 
>  
> Thomas 
 
Thomas, 
 
See my notes in comment #7 above.  I found that I needed v3.0M1 of WTP because VE needs JEM v2.0.0 and WTP v2.x has an older version of JEM. 
 
Chris
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616609 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Sun, 23 September 2007 20:04   | 
 
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"Chris Dolan" <christopher_dolan@avid.com> wrote in message 
news:155712966.30271190320497180.JavaMail.root@cp9.dzone.com... 
> I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff.  In the end, these are 
the steps that worked for me.  Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, 
just one working solution. 
> 
> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
> 2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
> 2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
> 2b) org.eclipse.wst 
> 2c) org.eclipse.jst 
> 2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
> 3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the 
authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
> 3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
> 3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
> 3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
> 3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
> 3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=WTP 
> id=org.eclipse.wst 
> version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
> 
> 3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
> 4) Install the build of VE: 
> 4a) Go to 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
> 4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
> 4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
> 4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " 
org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
> 4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
> 4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=Visual Editor 
> id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
> version=1.3.0.200709121813 
> 
> 4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above 
 
Hey that is a cool step by step guide :-) 
Note:The .eclipseextension can be empty. the content does not matter mostly. 
Could you do something for all of us? 
Add those steps and instructions to that wiki page: 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing 
Then as soon as we have anofficial build we can update it :-) 
Thanks!
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616614 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Wed, 26 September 2007 19:34   | 
 
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"Chris Dolan" <christopher_dolan@avid.com> wrote in message 
> I got it to work once I figured out the JEM stuff. 
>In the end, these are the steps that worked for me. 
>Note: these are likely not the minimal steps, just one working solution. 
 
Chris I added you rinstructions to that wiki page: 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing 
Thanks again! 
All feel free to edit the page as needed if the step do not work for you. 
 
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Cheers, Philippe 
http://www.nexb.com - http://eclipse.org/ve - http://eclipse.org/atf  - 
http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net 
> 
> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
> 2) via the Europa update site, install prerequisites for WTP: 
> 2a) org.eclipse.datatools 
> 2b) org.eclipse.wst 
> 2c) org.eclipse.jst 
> 2d) org.eclipse.jpt 
> 3) Install the 3.0M1 milestone release of WTP SDK, which is the 
authoritative source of JEM 2.0.0: 
> 3a) Go to http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ 
> 3b) Click the 3.0M1 build 
> 3c) Download the wtp-sdk zip 
> 3d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 3e) In that extracted folder, there is an "eclipse" subdir 
> 3f) In that subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 3g) Put the following three lines in that file: 
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> name=WTP 
> id=org.eclipse.wst 
> version=2.0.0.v200706041905 
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> 3h) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 3i) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 3j) Select the WTP "eclipse" subdir from above 
> 4) Install the build of VE: 
> 4a) Go to 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131065 &package_id=154855 
> 4b) Click "Visual Editor patched as in bug 202562" 
> 4c) Click org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813.zip 
> 4d) Unpack the .zip file somewhere 
> 4e) In that extracted folder, there is an " 
org.eclipse.visualeditor-1.3.0.200709121813" subdir 
> 4f) Rename that subdir to "eclipse" 
> 4g) In that "eclipse" subdir, create a file called ".eclipseextension" 
> 4h) Put the following three lines in that file: 
> 
> name=Visual Editor 
> id=org.eclipse.visualeditor 
> version=1.3.0.200709121813 
> 
> 4i) In eclipse, go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration 
> 4j) Click "Add an Extension Location" 
> 4k) Select the VE "eclipse" subdir from above
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616637 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Tue, 02 October 2007 18:17   | 
 
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Originally posted by: aslam.13thfloor.com 
 
Chris Dolan wrote: 
 
> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
 
Thanks for the step by step but how do I accomplish step 1? When I go in,  
I see no method to "fully uninstall" only disable. 
 
Also can someone modify this step by step for a completely clean, new  
install of Eclipse on OS X or Windows? What do I need to have on a virgin  
install before starting all of this? 
 
Thanks, 
Aslam 
 
P.S. Is the reason VE lost steam originally because there are other (maybe  
commercial) WYSIWYG Swing editors that people are using more? If so what  
are some of them?
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616638 is a reply to message #141437] | 
Tue, 02 October 2007 18:54   | 
 
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Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com 
 
Full uninstall will only be available if you used the update manager to  
install and HAD NOT used -clean option. If you used -clean or did not  
use the update manager then you need to do it by hand. You need to  
delete the features and plugins and run -clean. 
 
 
Aslam Nathoo wrote: 
> Chris Dolan wrote: 
>  
>> 1) Fully uninstall any old version of VE or JEM (not just disable) 
>  
> Thanks for the step by step but how do I accomplish step 1? When I go  
> in, I see no method to "fully uninstall" only disable. 
>  
> Also can someone modify this step by step for a completely clean, new  
> install of Eclipse on OS X or Windows? What do I need to have on a  
> virgin install before starting all of this? 
>  
> Thanks, 
> Aslam 
>  
> P.S. Is the reason VE lost steam originally because there are other  
> (maybe commercial) WYSIWYG Swing editors that people are using more? If  
> so what are some of them? 
>  
 
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Thanks, 
Rich Kulp
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616639 is a reply to message #141437] | 
Tue, 02 October 2007 22:48   | 
 
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"Aslam Nathoo" <aslam@13thfloor.com> wrote in message 
news:95bbae2ddf00943f7edc6effd5d65f7e$1@www.eclipse.org... 
> P.S. Is the reason VE lost steam originally because there are other (maybe 
> commercial) WYSIWYG Swing editors that people are using more? If so what 
> are some of them? 
I doubt that is the reason. 
This is a complex piece of code that may have scared many. 
That may have been the reason. 
Now the project is regaining steam, so thank you for your support! 
As for Swing commercial editors there are many ones to pick from.  GIYF :-). 
 
For the future of VE there are several possibilities: 
1/ focus exclusively on SWT and do it extremely well 
2/ continue to provide a more generic editing framework, and supporting 
visual editing of non-java target such as GWT, HTML, Groovy, EXSWT, etc. 
--  
Cheers, Philippe 
http://www.nexb.com - http://eclipse.org/ve - http://eclipse.org/atf  - 
http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616641 is a reply to message #141455] | 
Wed, 03 October 2007 03:32   | 
 
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Philippe Ombredanne wrote: 
 
> For the future of VE there are several possibilities: 
> 1/ focus exclusively on SWT and do it extremely well 
> 2/ continue to provide a more generic editing framework, and supporting 
> visual editing of non-java target such as GWT, HTML, Groovy, EXSWT, etc. 
 
   GWT is Java target.
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616760 is a reply to message #141640] | 
Thu, 11 October 2007 10:09   | 
 
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Philippe Ombredanne wrote: 
 
 
>>> For the future of VE there are several possibilities: 
>>> 1/ focus exclusively on SWT and do it extremely well 
>>> 2/ continue to provide a more generic editing framework, and supporting 
>>> visual editing of non-java target such as GWT, HTML, Groovy, EXSWT, etc. 
>>    GWT is Java target. 
> True, but the rendering is not Java so that would mean some other 
> techniques? 
> Or not? 
 
   "Or not." :-) 
 
   You have classes with Java code and special methods with JavaScript code. 
   You can use special ClassLoader to (re)implement these methods to  
execute this JavaScript code in browser. After this you can just execute  
these classes in normal JVM. How do you think this is done in GWT hosted  
mode or in GWT Designer?
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616763 is a reply to message #141670] | 
Sat, 13 October 2007 02:48   | 
 
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"Konstantin Scheglov" <kscheglov@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:felar7$3jv$1@build.eclipse.org... 
> > True, but the rendering is not Java so that would mean some other 
> > techniques? 
> > Or not? 
> 
>    "Or not." :-) 
> 
>    You have classes with Java code and special methods with JavaScript 
code. 
>    You can use special ClassLoader to (re)implement these methods to 
> execute this JavaScript code in browser. After this you can just execute 
> these classes in normal JVM. How do you think this is done in GWT hosted 
> mode or in GWT Designer? 
I  shall reckon my complete lack of knowledge about the GWT internals for 
now. 
Help would be welcomed if we do something there.
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| Re: Updated patched VE for 3.3/Europa [message #616797 is a reply to message #140822] | 
Tue, 23 October 2007 14:50   | 
 
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Originally posted by: njagan.gmail.com 
 
Hi Chris, 
 
  Thanks for the detailed instructions. I had spent more than a week and  
was really going totally crazy with VE & Europa. Your article really  
helped me immensely. 
 
  Thanks again!  
 
  Cheers!!!
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