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| WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127058] |
Tue, 13 April 2004 11:23  |
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Originally posted by: miticka2003.yahoo.com
hi,
I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
I'm trying to use GEF.
(I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
But I'm lost :-(
Can anybody tell me, where to start, what to read, which example to try?
I have to write plugin?
And it can run outside Eclipse?
Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
plugin), are there any?
thanks,
petriiik
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127098 is a reply to message #127058] |
Tue, 13 April 2004 23:54  |
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Hello!
"petriiik" <miticka2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<c5h0l0$kgu$1@eclipse.org>...
> I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> I'm trying to use GEF.
> (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
Yes, it is. But there is much work to do. HTML is a complex markup
language. First of all, HTML document is a text. So you should work with it
accordingly. GEF must be extended to support document ranges, selection,
text caret and so on. The draw2d.text package should be rewritten for right
word-wrap and style handling. The hardest problem is a control embedding. I
don't know wholly satifactory solution of this problem. You can try to embed
SWT widgets or to write draw2d controls by yourself.
> I have to write plugin?
> And it can run outside Eclipse?
> Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> plugin), are there any?
>
You can write an Eclipse plugin or a standalone application. The plugin
can be used inside the Eclipse and with the
Rich Client Platform(RCP). But I am not sure that the RCP is ready for
commercal use. If you want to use GEF with a standalone application, you
must remove all dependecies on Eclipse Workbench plugins manually. This is a
simple operation, but some functionality will be losy indeed.
with best regards, Alexey Kharlamov
Software Developer,
Enterra Inc.
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127133 is a reply to message #127058] |
Wed, 14 April 2004 03:07 |
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Originally posted by: dirk-77.web.de
petriiik wrote:
> hi,
>
> I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> I'm trying to use GEF.
> (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
>
> But I'm lost :-(
> Can anybody tell me, where to start, what to read, which example to try?
You should read the IBM Redbook describing GEF. That should explain most
things you need to know.
easy examples can be found at:
http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/50
>
> I have to write plugin?
> And it can run outside Eclipse?
> Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> plugin), are there any?
>
> thanks,
> petriiik
>
>
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127158 is a reply to message #127098] |
Wed, 14 April 2004 05:45 |
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Originally posted by: miticka2003.yahoo.com
hello,
thanks a lot for good quick overview
I got some more questions:
1. I don't need to edit the html source, only to drag&drop components and
move them inside page (positioning them with aligning and using tables),
so I have to use only standard text input boxes to enter simple string
value (for labels, ...), haven't I?
Because I want to hide HTML background from user. I want do develop not
general HTML editor, but application specific.
In other words, user will be able to change only the layout and use
predefined tags.
Is there any product (with source) or example doing something like this?
2. Is there any "how-to" document about how to write standalone
application using eclipse?
Because for me is not so simple to remove all dependecies on Eclipse
Workbench plugins manually.
3. Rich Client Platform(RCP)
What is the state of it? I was searching newsgroup, but I've found only
questions. And I didn't find reference in milestones buils notes about it.
petriiik
Alexey Kharlamov wrote:
> Hello!
> "petriiik" <miticka2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<c5h0l0$kgu$1@eclipse.org>...
> > I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> > Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> > I'm trying to use GEF.
> > (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
> Yes, it is. But there is much work to do. HTML is a complex markup
> language. First of all, HTML document is a text. So you should work with it
> accordingly. GEF must be extended to support document ranges, selection,
> text caret and so on. The draw2d.text package should be rewritten for right
> word-wrap and style handling. The hardest problem is a control embedding. I
> don't know wholly satifactory solution of this problem. You can try to embed
> SWT widgets or to write draw2d controls by yourself.
> > I have to write plugin?
> > And it can run outside Eclipse?
> > Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> > Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> > plugin), are there any?
> >
> You can write an Eclipse plugin or a standalone application. The plugin
> can be used inside the Eclipse and with the
> Rich Client Platform(RCP). But I am not sure that the RCP is ready for
> commercal use. If you want to use GEF with a standalone application, you
> must remove all dependecies on Eclipse Workbench plugins manually. This is a
> simple operation, but some functionality will be losy indeed.
> with best regards, Alexey Kharlamov
> Software Developer,
> Enterra Inc.
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127235 is a reply to message #127158] |
Wed, 14 April 2004 12:14 |
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The Visual Editor Project (which uses GEF) is also worth investigating:
www.eclipse.org/vep
Newsgroup: eclipse.tools.ve
"petriiik" <miticka2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c5j177$13c$1@eclipse.org...
>
> hello,
> thanks a lot for good quick overview
> I got some more questions:
>
> 1. I don't need to edit the html source, only to drag&drop components and
> move them inside page (positioning them with aligning and using tables),
> so I have to use only standard text input boxes to enter simple string
> value (for labels, ...), haven't I?
> Because I want to hide HTML background from user. I want do develop not
> general HTML editor, but application specific.
> In other words, user will be able to change only the layout and use
> predefined tags.
> Is there any product (with source) or example doing something like this?
>
> 2. Is there any "how-to" document about how to write standalone
> application using eclipse?
> Because for me is not so simple to remove all dependecies on Eclipse
> Workbench plugins manually.
>
> 3. Rich Client Platform(RCP)
> What is the state of it? I was searching newsgroup, but I've found only
> questions. And I didn't find reference in milestones buils notes about it.
>
> petriiik
>
>
> Alexey Kharlamov wrote:
>
> > Hello!
>
> > "petriiik" <miticka2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:<c5h0l0$kgu$1@eclipse.org>...
> > > I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> > > Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> > > I'm trying to use GEF.
> > > (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
> > Yes, it is. But there is much work to do. HTML is a complex
markup
> > language. First of all, HTML document is a text. So you should work with
it
> > accordingly. GEF must be extended to support document ranges, selection,
> > text caret and so on. The draw2d.text package should be rewritten for
right
> > word-wrap and style handling. The hardest problem is a control
embedding. I
> > don't know wholly satifactory solution of this problem. You can try to
embed
> > SWT widgets or to write draw2d controls by yourself.
> > > I have to write plugin?
> > > And it can run outside Eclipse?
> > > Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> > > Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> > > plugin), are there any?
> > >
> > You can write an Eclipse plugin or a standalone application. The
plugin
> > can be used inside the Eclipse and with the
> > Rich Client Platform(RCP). But I am not sure that the RCP is ready for
> > commercal use. If you want to use GEF with a standalone application, you
> > must remove all dependecies on Eclipse Workbench plugins manually. This
is a
> > simple operation, but some functionality will be losy indeed.
>
> > with best regards, Alexey Kharlamov
> > Software Developer,
> > Enterra Inc.
>
>
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127599 is a reply to message #127133] |
Fri, 16 April 2004 00:43 |
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Originally posted by: g_david70.hotmail.com
hi,
To create HTML Editor i recommend you to use DHTMLED.OCX...it is a microsft
component is included in IE for free.
Good luck.
Tu Hoang
"Dirk Hufnagel" <dirk-77@web.de> wrote in message
news:c5ink9$jb4$1@eclipse.org...
> petriiik wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> > Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> > I'm trying to use GEF.
> > (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
> >
> > But I'm lost :-(
> > Can anybody tell me, where to start, what to read, which example to try?
> You should read the IBM Redbook describing GEF. That should explain most
> things you need to know.
> easy examples can be found at:
> http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/50
> >
> > I have to write plugin?
> > And it can run outside Eclipse?
> > Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> > Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> > plugin), are there any?
> >
> > thanks,
> > petriiik
> >
> >
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #127611 is a reply to message #127058] |
Fri, 16 April 2004 05:26 |
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At EclipseCon, I remember Randy indicating that IBM had built a html
editor based on GEF. Not that this helps you, but it does at least
indicate that it is possible.
James
petriiik wrote:
> hi,
> I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> I'm trying to use GEF.
> (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
> But I'm lost :-(
> Can anybody tell me, where to start, what to read, which example to try?
> I have to write plugin?
> And it can run outside Eclipse?
> Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> plugin), are there any?
> thanks,
> petriiik
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #128830 is a reply to message #127058] |
Mon, 26 April 2004 08:27 |
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Originally posted by: mre_speedster.hotmail.com
Hello petriiik
I have a similar problem to yours. I also would like to build a HTML
editor, but with JSP functionalities as well. I have been looking at using
GEF as well, maybe with VE, but as you, I also not to sure where to start,
and what to use. Maybe you would be interested to work with, such that we
can share the work to achieve the same interests. In the interim, are you
planning to develop a commercial product, or a part of a commercial
product, or could we maybe introduce the application as an open source
html editor?
If you should be interested, drop me either a mail, or post a reply.
regards
MR_E
petriiik wrote:
> hi,
> I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> I'm trying to use GEF.
> (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
> But I'm lost :-(
> Can anybody tell me, where to start, what to read, which example to try?
> I have to write plugin?
> And it can run outside Eclipse?
> Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> plugin), are there any?
> thanks,
> petriiik
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| Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [message #131993 is a reply to message #128830] |
Thu, 13 May 2004 09:50 |
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Originally posted by: miticka2003.yahoo.com
hello,
it is commercial project and was paused
so now I'm not investigating ... (maybe in the future)
petriiik
MR_E wrote:
> Hello petriiik
> I have a similar problem to yours. I also would like to build a HTML
> editor, but with JSP functionalities as well. I have been looking at using
> GEF as well, maybe with VE, but as you, I also not to sure where to start,
> and what to use. Maybe you would be interested to work with, such that we
> can share the work to achieve the same interests. In the interim, are you
> planning to develop a commercial product, or a part of a commercial
> product, or could we maybe introduce the application as an open source
> html editor?
> If you should be interested, drop me either a mail, or post a reply.
> regards
> MR_E
> petriiik wrote:
> > hi,
> > I want to to write WYSIVYG HTML Editor using Eclipse.
> > Editor should be simple with some standard and some my own tags.
> > I'm trying to use GEF.
> > (I hope, it is the right way to solve it., isn't it?)
> > But I'm lost :-(
> > Can anybody tell me, where to start, what to read, which example to try?
> > I have to write plugin?
> > And it can run outside Eclipse?
> > Or only inside, but I should change behaviour of eclipse workbench?
> > Can I use some wizard for writing GEF application (like wizards for
> > plugin), are there any?
> > thanks,
> > petriiik
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