| Are you responsible for providing eclipse at your firm? [message #112571] |
Thu, 26 June 2008 05:56  |
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Hi,
If your answer to this question is "yes" then do you know if a community
is needed for people like us? I have been in sole charge of providing
eclipse at my company for the past 2 years. Users are not allowed to
download and install software from outside the corporate firewall. So for
3.2 and 3.3 I created a set of private update site mirrors + a policy
based on the content of these. I created an ant based eclipse installer,
and discovered a way of providing global config for installs. Just as I
was getting on top of things P2 is released and I find myself looking up
at another frustrating eclipse learning curve.
So, if you know of a community group for 'corporate eclipse sys admins'
please let me know. If you would like to be part of such a group please
also let me know. I think there is room here for such a group where we can
get together, share knowledge and help one another.
Cheers,
Miles
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| Re: Are you responsible for providing eclipse at your firm? [message #112835 is a reply to message #112571] |
Fri, 27 June 2008 22:41  |
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Originally posted by: joe_eclipse.freemansoft.com
I've been managing the eclipse installation for our team of 40 developers.
With 3.3, I installed Eclipse on my machine with all of the desired
plugins and checked it into our SCM system in development-tools
repository. New developers check out the development tools repo. They
then run eclipse and load our epf, import their projects and they're
ready to work. No scripts or other overhead.
Now this was easy under 3.3 because we could install all of the plugins
in directories that were external from eclipse. Every time we got a new
version of a plugin, say checkstyle, we'd delete the old directory and
add the new one to the repository and configure eclipse to point at the
new location. This was great because it let us control the "bloat" of
our installation because it was easy to clean out all of the components
of a plugin.
Now we have no idea how to do this under 3.4. Since our installation,
is under version control, we have to know what files are to be deleted
on every upgrade and we have to delete them using or version control
commands. The update process can't do it on its own. I don't know how
we are going to do that with all of the plugins mixed into one location.
Joe
Miles Daffin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If your answer to this question is "yes" then do you know if a community
> is needed for people like us? I have been in sole charge of providing
> eclipse at my company for the past 2 years. Users are not allowed to
> download and install software from outside the corporate firewall. So
> for 3.2 and 3.3 I created a set of private update site mirrors + a
> policy based on the content of these. I created an ant based eclipse
> installer, and discovered a way of providing global config for installs.
> Just as I was getting on top of things P2 is released and I find myself
> looking up at another frustrating eclipse learning curve.
>
> So, if you know of a community group for 'corporate eclipse sys admins'
> please let me know. If you would like to be part of such a group please
> also let me know. I think there is room here for such a group where we
> can get together, share knowledge and help one another.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Miles
>
>
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| Re: Are you responsible for providing eclipse at your firm? [message #112848 is a reply to message #112835] |
Sat, 28 June 2008 07:09 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: ekkehard.gentz-software.de
Joe,
your plugins dont have to be mixed at one location
* you can use the dropins folder - you can even have this folder
structured with a subfolder for each plugin
* you can also work with link files inside the dropins folder,
so you can link from dropins folder to externalBundelLocation and if you
want to change this externalBundle you can replace the plugins with a
newer version
another thin whats worth to look at: you can use a bundle pool - tehn
all your eclipse installations use the same bundle pool (= all from
features and plugins folder in a regular eclipse installation)
ekke
Joe schrieb:
> I've been managing the eclipse installation for our team of 40 developers.
>
> With 3.3, I installed Eclipse on my machine with all of the desired
> plugins and checked it into our SCM system in development-tools
> repository. New developers check out the development tools repo. They
> then run eclipse and load our epf, import their projects and they're
> ready to work. No scripts or other overhead.
>
> Now this was easy under 3.3 because we could install all of the plugins
> in directories that were external from eclipse. Every time we got a new
> version of a plugin, say checkstyle, we'd delete the old directory and
> add the new one to the repository and configure eclipse to point at the
> new location. This was great because it let us control the "bloat" of
> our installation because it was easy to clean out all of the components
> of a plugin.
>
> Now we have no idea how to do this under 3.4. Since our installation,
> is under version control, we have to know what files are to be deleted
> on every upgrade and we have to delete them using or version control
> commands. The update process can't do it on its own. I don't know how
> we are going to do that with all of the plugins mixed into one location.
>
> Joe
>
> Miles Daffin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If your answer to this question is "yes" then do you know if a
>> community is needed for people like us? I have been in sole charge of
>> providing eclipse at my company for the past 2 years. Users are not
>> allowed to download and install software from outside the corporate
>> firewall. So for 3.2 and 3.3 I created a set of private update site
>> mirrors + a policy based on the content of these. I created an ant
>> based eclipse installer, and discovered a way of providing global
>> config for installs. Just as I was getting on top of things P2 is
>> released and I find myself looking up at another frustrating eclipse
>> learning curve.
>>
>> So, if you know of a community group for 'corporate eclipse sys
>> admins' please let me know. If you would like to be part of such a
>> group please also let me know. I think there is room here for such a
>> group where we can get together, share knowledge and help one another.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Miles
>>
>>
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| Re: Are you responsible for providing eclipse at your firm? [message #490290 is a reply to message #112860] |
Thu, 08 October 2009 04:50 |
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Hi Joe,
Just wondered if you are still in the business of providing Eclipse to a team of developers. If so perhaps you would like to give us an update about how you are doing and any problems you might be facing. I created a new forum for this purpose called Enterprise Users. We could continue the conversation there.
Cheers,
Miles
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