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nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #106264]

Wed, 12 March 2008 16:24

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: amottadelli_remove.tele2.it

Equinox has a very nice "servlet bridge" to allow the inclusion of an
Equinox framework in a Servlet environment.

I believe that I would be very nice and useful to have an equivalent
"Equinox" solution for embedding an Equinox framework in a generic java
environment.
It also would be very nice to have a "standard" mechanism to allow the
plugins to communicate with the "external" environment.

Best regards,
Sandro

Re: nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #106292 is a reply to message #106264]

Thu, 13 March 2008 06:19

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: Boyan.Yurukov.softwareag.com

Exactly what I need right now to be honest. Now in order to allow external
programs to access and run the services in the framework, I have to use a
bundle that listens to a port, through which I send all the commands in
text. Very uncomfortable and slow.

Greetings,
Boyan.

"Alessandro Mottadelli" <amottadelli_remove@tele2.it> wrote in message
news:fr9e61$4n8$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Equinox has a very nice "servlet bridge" to allow the inclusion of an
> Equinox framework in a Servlet environment.
>
> I believe that I would be very nice and useful to have an equivalent
> "Equinox" solution for embedding an Equinox framework in a generic java
> environment.
> It also would be very nice to have a "standard" mechanism to allow the
> plugins to communicate with the "external" environment.
>
> Best regards,
> Sandro
>

Re: nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #106359 is a reply to message #106292]

Fri, 14 March 2008 04:54

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: amottadelli_NO_SPAM.it.ibm.com

Yes.
In this days I have been thinking on what kind of "general" model could
be used to communicate with an ambedded framework.

My first idea is that "isolates" could be a nice solutions...
http://bitser.net/isolate-interest/

wdyt?

Regards,
Sandro

Boyan Yurukov ha scritto:
> Exactly what I need right now to be honest. Now in order to allow external
> programs to access and run the services in the framework, I have to use a
> bundle that listens to a port, through which I send all the commands in
> text. Very uncomfortable and slow.
>
> Greetings,
> Boyan.
>
>

Re: nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #107599 is a reply to message #106292]

Mon, 07 April 2008 08:37

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: pillii.gmx.de

Boyan Yurukov schrieb:
> Exactly what I need right now to be honest. Now in order to allow external
> programs to access and run the services in the framework, I have to use a
> bundle that listens to a port, through which I send all the commands in
> text. Very uncomfortable and slow.
>
> Greetings,
> Boyan.

Hello,

do you have any idea how to communicate with the framework besides using
a network connection?
I dont want to use one.
Is it possible to change the Classloaders somehow for example?

Regards,
Gordian

Re: nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #107861 is a reply to message #107599]

Thu, 10 April 2008 05:19

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: Boyan.Yurukov.softwareag.com

The only way I know is to build a bundle that provides a hook and then
to start the Framework from a java application and exploit the hook.
Essentially there is no other way to get access to the internal classes
and services, because of the strong restrictions. Also that is how
Equinox is started in Tomcat - there is a servlet that gets all the http
requests and then forwards them to a bundle that has defined a hook.

What I would suggest is that you build your application as a bundle. I
is easier to do and you have to deal with less classloader issues.

Greetings,
Boyan.

gordian wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> do you have any idea how to communicate with the framework besides using
> a network connection?
> I dont want to use one.
> Is it possible to change the Classloaders somehow for example?
>
> Regards,
> Gordian

Re: nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #107900 is a reply to message #107599]

Thu, 10 April 2008 13:49

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: amottadelli_remove.tele2.it

gordian wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> do you have any idea how to communicate with the framework besides using
> a network connection?
> I dont want to use one.
> Is it possible to change the Classloaders somehow for example?
>
> Regards,
> Gordian

Gordian,
we use as a "bridge" a "known" static variable in a class that can be
accessed from the framework loader.

This is fast and convenient but maybe not very clean.
It maybe would be better to implement an "isolate" link (??)

Regards,
Sandro

Re: nice to have: an Equinox "Generic" Bridge [message #107914 is a reply to message #107599]

Thu, 10 April 2008 14:47

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: pillii.gmx.de

Thank you both.

I made a fragment to the system.bundle that exported the class i needed
to be shared.

Regards,
Gordian

gordian schrieb:
> Boyan Yurukov schrieb:
>> Exactly what I need right now to be honest. Now in order to allow
>> external programs to access and run the services in the framework, I
>> have to use a bundle that listens to a port, through which I send all
>> the commands in text. Very uncomfortable and slow.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Boyan.
>
>
> Hello,
>
> do you have any idea how to communicate with the framework besides using
> a network connection?
> I dont want to use one.
> Is it possible to change the Classloaders somehow for example?
>
> Regards,
> Gordian

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