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How do you do your UI construction? [message #296188] Fri, 16 December 2005 09:59 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: eclipse.20.offby1.spamgourmet.com

When I'm writing UI code, I tend to have a very tight loop of "change,
run, check" to make sure my UI is looking like I expect it to. Given
that this is basically the first thing I've ever done with SWT, I expect
that to continue, since although I may have a good idea of what I want,
I'm not too confident in my ability to get it right ;)

So, the question I have is: How do you do your UI construction? Are
there good SWT UI builders that work with and understand Eclipse pages,
et al? Is there a good, simple way to convert between the output of
things that do and an Eclipse part? Specifically, that last, I want to
make use of the FormPage part for my editor...

How do you verify that your designs are good, other than by running
Eclipse again and again -- which takes more time than I want it to,
given the frequency with which I do it.

Any other UI construction tips would be just dandy.

Thanks.
--
Chris Rose
Not to be taken literally, internally, or seriously
Re: How do you do your UI construction? [message #296190 is a reply to message #296188] Fri, 16 December 2005 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: dserodio.gmail.com

Chris Rose wrote:
> When I'm writing UI code, I tend to have a very tight loop of "change,
> run, check" to make sure my UI is looking like I expect it to. Given
> that this is basically the first thing I've ever done with SWT, I expect
> that to continue, since although I may have a good idea of what I want,
> I'm not too confident in my ability to get it right ;)
>
> So, the question I have is: How do you do your UI construction? Are
> there good SWT UI builders that work with and understand Eclipse pages,
> et al? Is there a good, simple way to convert between the output of
> things that do and an Eclipse part? Specifically, that last, I want to
> make use of the FormPage part for my editor...
>
> How do you verify that your designs are good, other than by running
> Eclipse again and again -- which takes more time than I want it to,
> given the frequency with which I do it.
>
> Any other UI construction tips would be just dandy.

See http://www.eclipse.org/vep/ it's a great plugin and you'll find lots
of tutorials too.

HTH,
Daniel Serodio
Re: How do you do your UI construction? [message #296225 is a reply to message #296188] Sat, 17 December 2005 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: automatic.javalobby.org

Programmatically building UI is infact a pain that everyone goes through. But once you get a hang of layouts well, then certain things look as if you dont have to test again and again. One thing generally I do to verify layout is make a sample with the help of "SWT Examples Plugin" where you have a view ("SWT Layouts") to help you layout different controls in a composite and after that generate code for the same.

Thanks
~Venkat
Re: How do you do your UI construction? [message #296245 is a reply to message #296188] Mon, 19 December 2005 05:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: scheglov_ke.nlmk.ru

Chris Rose wrote:

> So, the question I have is: How do you do your UI construction? Are
> there good SWT UI builders that work with and understand Eclipse pages,
> et al? Is there a good, simple way to convert between the output of
> things that do and an Eclipse part? Specifically, that last, I want to
> make use of the FormPage part for my editor...

Following pages describe Forms API and RCP elements support if SWT
Designer.

Forms API support:
http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/docs/introduc tion/new_and_noteworthy_300.html

Views support (plus several new Forms API features):
http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/docs/introduc tion/new_and_noteworthy_420.html

Perspectives design support:
http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/docs/introduc tion/new_and_noteworthy_421.html


--
SY, Konstantin.
Advanced Eclipse SWT Designer (http://www.swt-designer.com)
Re: How do you do your UI construction? [message #296276 is a reply to message #296225] Mon, 19 December 2005 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I have to second that. It is pretty cool and very helpful.

"Venkataramana M" <automatic@javalobby.org> wrote in message
news:6140099.1134819562675.JavaMail.root@cp1.javalobby.org...
> Programmatically building UI is infact a pain that everyone goes through.
> But once you get a hang of layouts well, then certain things look as if
> you dont have to test again and again. One thing generally I do to verify
> layout is make a sample with the help of "SWT Examples Plugin" where you
> have a view ("SWT Layouts") to help you layout different controls in a
> composite and after that generate code for the same.
>
> Thanks
> ~Venkat
Re: How do you do your UI construction? [message #296284 is a reply to message #296188] Mon, 19 December 2005 16:10 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nick_edgar._no.spam.please_.ca.ibm.com

You could also try XSWT. It includes a preview view.
http://www.coconut-palm-software.com/the_visual_editor/?page _id=58

Chris Rose wrote:
> When I'm writing UI code, I tend to have a very tight loop of "change,
> run, check" to make sure my UI is looking like I expect it to. Given
> that this is basically the first thing I've ever done with SWT, I expect
> that to continue, since although I may have a good idea of what I want,
> I'm not too confident in my ability to get it right ;)
>
> So, the question I have is: How do you do your UI construction? Are
> there good SWT UI builders that work with and understand Eclipse pages,
> et al? Is there a good, simple way to convert between the output of
> things that do and an Eclipse part? Specifically, that last, I want to
> make use of the FormPage part for my editor...
>
> How do you verify that your designs are good, other than by running
> Eclipse again and again -- which takes more time than I want it to,
> given the frequency with which I do it.
>
> Any other UI construction tips would be just dandy.
>
> Thanks.
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