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| Re: an strange ideea to have a Visual GUI Editor in Eclipse using JBuilder [message #29369 is a reply to message #29293] |
Thu, 03 October 2002 21:28   |
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Originally posted by: bob.objfac.com
"Dan" <stiri@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:ani65i$ca2$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hi,
>
> Right now I'm using Eclipse to develop server side code, and it's great.
But
> when it comes to the presentation tier, it's really not helping me at all.
> So I'm using two editors, Eclipse and JBuilder Personal Edition for my
SWING
> client application. I'm a little bit tired to keep swaping between
JBuilder
> and Eclipse.
>
> The bottom line is: can we somehow use the JBuilder VCE integrated in
> Eclipse for designing the application GUI. It should work like this: in
> Eclipse right click on an AWT or SWING class, pick Open in JBuilder VCE.
The
> JBuilder editor will open (integrated in Eclipse or just standalone).
After
> editing the class and saving it, the Eclipse will reload the source code
> from disk and compile it.
>
> Just a crazy ideea, give me your thoughts.
If you make JBuilder the default system editor for .java files and in
Eclipse you Open with System editor, JBuilder should open the file. You
probably want to include your eclipse src folder in a JBuilder project and
start JBuilder before you do this. In Eclipse, after JBuilder has mucked
with files, you can Refresh your project to get Eclipse to compile them
(plus any new files).
Not as convenient as you want, I know, but maybe it's a start.
Bob
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| Re: an strange ideea to have a Visual GUI Editor in Eclipse using JBuilder [message #29407 is a reply to message #29293] |
Thu, 03 October 2002 22:53 |
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Originally posted by: fred.mes.wanadoo.fr
Hi
Yes, IBM as developed a new VCE in WSAD5 called JVE (Java Visual Editor).
This editor is build on GDT framework and its looks is very nice. I have
tried it with one of the latest beta version of WSAD5 but there were no
connections available (no JMenus or connections like that availanble for
design) but I think this limitation doesn't exist anymore with the official
release of WSAD5 (30/09/2002).
I think using JBuilder VCE should be interesting but I prefer using an
integrated component developed on GEF by OTI/IBM. Mostly of all and future
plugins with visual interfaces are build on GEF (eg TogetherXG, SlimUML,
EclipseUML and future WSADUML).
About the Instantation VCE bridge , according to me it was not so
interesting. Have you already try to launch Visual Age4 and WSAD/Eclipse1 or
2 on the same machine (you have to if you want to use their product) ?? Ask
to your financial director to buy new PCs for all developpers ....
CodePro is a good product but GEF/JVE is better and it is normal....it is
integrated with the Eclipse/WSAD plateforme. So wait a couple of weeks if
you intend to use WSAD5 and just take a look, JVE will enjoy you.
Fred
"Dan" <stiri@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:ani65i$ca2$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hi,
>
> Right now I'm using Eclipse to develop server side code, and it's great.
But
> when it comes to the presentation tier, it's really not helping me at all.
> So I'm using two editors, Eclipse and JBuilder Personal Edition for my
SWING
> client application. I'm a little bit tired to keep swaping between
JBuilder
> and Eclipse.
>
> The bottom line is: can we somehow use the JBuilder VCE integrated in
> Eclipse for designing the application GUI. It should work like this: in
> Eclipse right click on an AWT or SWING class, pick Open in JBuilder VCE.
The
> JBuilder editor will open (integrated in Eclipse or just standalone).
After
> editing the class and saving it, the Eclipse will reload the source code
> from disk and compile it.
>
> Just a crazy ideea, give me your thoughts.
>
> Dan
>
>
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| Re: an strange ideea to have a Visual GUI Editor in Eclipse using JBuilder [message #584015 is a reply to message #29293] |
Thu, 03 October 2002 21:28 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: bob.objfac.com
"Dan" <stiri@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:ani65i$ca2$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hi,
>
> Right now I'm using Eclipse to develop server side code, and it's great.
But
> when it comes to the presentation tier, it's really not helping me at all.
> So I'm using two editors, Eclipse and JBuilder Personal Edition for my
SWING
> client application. I'm a little bit tired to keep swaping between
JBuilder
> and Eclipse.
>
> The bottom line is: can we somehow use the JBuilder VCE integrated in
> Eclipse for designing the application GUI. It should work like this: in
> Eclipse right click on an AWT or SWING class, pick Open in JBuilder VCE.
The
> JBuilder editor will open (integrated in Eclipse or just standalone).
After
> editing the class and saving it, the Eclipse will reload the source code
> from disk and compile it.
>
> Just a crazy ideea, give me your thoughts.
If you make JBuilder the default system editor for .java files and in
Eclipse you Open with System editor, JBuilder should open the file. You
probably want to include your eclipse src folder in a JBuilder project and
start JBuilder before you do this. In Eclipse, after JBuilder has mucked
with files, you can Refresh your project to get Eclipse to compile them
(plus any new files).
Not as convenient as you want, I know, but maybe it's a start.
Bob
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| Re: an strange ideea to have a Visual GUI Editor in Eclipse using JBuilder [message #584034 is a reply to message #29293] |
Thu, 03 October 2002 22:53 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: fred.mes.wanadoo.fr
Hi
Yes, IBM as developed a new VCE in WSAD5 called JVE (Java Visual Editor).
This editor is build on GDT framework and its looks is very nice. I have
tried it with one of the latest beta version of WSAD5 but there were no
connections available (no JMenus or connections like that availanble for
design) but I think this limitation doesn't exist anymore with the official
release of WSAD5 (30/09/2002).
I think using JBuilder VCE should be interesting but I prefer using an
integrated component developed on GEF by OTI/IBM. Mostly of all and future
plugins with visual interfaces are build on GEF (eg TogetherXG, SlimUML,
EclipseUML and future WSADUML).
About the Instantation VCE bridge , according to me it was not so
interesting. Have you already try to launch Visual Age4 and WSAD/Eclipse1 or
2 on the same machine (you have to if you want to use their product) ?? Ask
to your financial director to buy new PCs for all developpers ....
CodePro is a good product but GEF/JVE is better and it is normal....it is
integrated with the Eclipse/WSAD plateforme. So wait a couple of weeks if
you intend to use WSAD5 and just take a look, JVE will enjoy you.
Fred
"Dan" <stiri@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:ani65i$ca2$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hi,
>
> Right now I'm using Eclipse to develop server side code, and it's great.
But
> when it comes to the presentation tier, it's really not helping me at all.
> So I'm using two editors, Eclipse and JBuilder Personal Edition for my
SWING
> client application. I'm a little bit tired to keep swaping between
JBuilder
> and Eclipse.
>
> The bottom line is: can we somehow use the JBuilder VCE integrated in
> Eclipse for designing the application GUI. It should work like this: in
> Eclipse right click on an AWT or SWING class, pick Open in JBuilder VCE.
The
> JBuilder editor will open (integrated in Eclipse or just standalone).
After
> editing the class and saving it, the Eclipse will reload the source code
> from disk and compile it.
>
> Just a crazy ideea, give me your thoughts.
>
> Dan
>
>
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