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Problem with isJavaEnabled() [message #1490775]

Fri, 28 November 2014 07:34

Eclipse User

The Geppetto product is built on Xtext but it does not include JDT. Geppetto may also be installed into an Eclipse IDE but unless Xtext is already installed there it won't work very well. Here's why:

The product includes a feature where the following is included:

The Eclipse platform
The Xtext plug-ins needed by Geppetto
The Geppetto feature

The problem is that when we don't use the product but instead installs the feature #3 into an Eclipse IDE, then Xtext detects that java is enabled. This in turn results in that the SharedContributionWithJDT will make an attempt to bind the class JdtQueuedBuildData which in turn references JavaBuilderState which we neither provide nor depend on. Consequently it has not been installed by p2.

In short, when 'isJavaEnabled()' returns true the xtext requirements change. Bundles marked as optional become required and our bundles fail to start. I don't know what the best solution is for this and any advice would be welcome:

We can tell our users that in order to install Geppetto into an IDE, they need to install additional Xtext features first because the IDE has the JDK installed and that in turn increases the requirements from Xtext beyond what our feature actually requires.
We can provide an additional feature that includes the xtext bundles that are no longer optional when the JDK is present and tell users that they need to install that too.

None of the above strikes me as an ideal solution. I think we would need a way to influence the SharedContributionWithJDT module and prevent it from binding even when java is enabled.

Re: Problem with isJavaEnabled() [message #1495613 is a reply to message #1490775]

Tue, 02 December 2014 06:04

Eclipse User

Yippee it seems that I'm not alone after all in using Xtext but not JDT! Thank you Thomas!

See also this thread for additional information on optional dependencies and Xtext's ambiguous relationship with JDT Smile

: https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/629003/

I would also like to see a better solution than the current requirement on JDT.
In the meantime, what build system are you using to build your product? If you're using Maven, you can filter out any unwanted bundles in your product's pom.xml as follows:

<plugin>
  <groupId>org.eclipse.tycho</groupId>
  <artifactId>target-platform-configuration</artifactId>
  <version>${tycho-version}</version>
  <configuration>
    <!-- ignore optional dependencies in the product -->
    <dependency-resolution>
      <optionalDependencies>ignore</optionalDependencies>
    </dependency-resolution>

    <!-- filter out unwanted bundles -->
    <filters>
      <filter><type>eclipse-plugin</type><id>org.eclipse.jdt.core</id><removeAll/></filter>
      <!-- any other plugins that you want to ignore here -->
    </filters>
  </configuration>
</plugin>

Your product must not include the Xtext feature for that to work (otherwise the build will fail because JDT is unavailable but required)

Note: this only works for a full product build, if your users want to install into an existing Eclipse installation, or update, then Eclipse will still install JDT at the same time Sad

Please dear Xtext developers, hear our prayers!

Re: Problem with isJavaEnabled() [message #1495647 is a reply to message #1495613]

Tue, 02 December 2014 06:38

Eclipse User

Hi Matthieu,

Thanks for the info about filtering optional plug-ins. We're using Buckminster for the builds and optional plug-ins isn't a problem for us. The problem occurs when we omit optional plug-ins that then become required at runtime when the JDT is detected.

Our current solution is to provide two features. One that is slimmed down to a bare minimum intended for the product where no JDT is present and another for installation in the Eclipse IDE. The latter requires the org.eclipse.xtext.ui feature which in turn ensures that all optional stuff is brought in.

Re: Problem with isJavaEnabled() [message #1497426 is a reply to message #1495647]

Wed, 03 December 2014 15:27

Eclipse User

Hi Thomas,

that solution is usually the best you could provide. Could you please
share a list of bundles that should be available, too, when
#isJavaEnabled may return true as a valid answer?

Best,
Sebastian
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