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| Ganymede fails after update [message #260124] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 04:52  |
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Originally posted by: jamesdcarroll.g_mail.com
I'm installing Ganymede on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04.1 (Linux). I downloaded the
archive, extracted the files and everything looked great. Then I went to
update to get anything that didn't come with the version that I downloaded
(SDK). I selected the Ganymede node to grab everything, it comes down,
installs, and once again, things are going great. Until I restart.
Upon restart I get the message:
"An error has occurred. See the log file
/home/jim/Programs/Eclipse34/eclipse/configuration/121523246 8080.log. "
Only one problem: there's no such file.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260129 is a reply to message #260124] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 05:18  |
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Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com
Try this:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_ Linux.3F
JDC wrote:
> I'm installing Ganymede on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04.1 (Linux). I downloaded
> the archive, extracted the files and everything looked great. Then I
> went to update to get anything that didn't come with the version that I
> downloaded (SDK). I selected the Ganymede node to grab everything, it
> comes down, installs, and once again, things are going great. Until I
> restart.
>
> Upon restart I get the message:
> "An error has occurred. See the log file
> /home/jim/Programs/Eclipse34/eclipse/configuration/121523246 8080.log. "
>
>
> Only one problem: there's no such file.
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
Eclipse Modeling :: http://www.eclipse.org/modeling
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260143 is a reply to message #260129] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 15:59 |
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Originally posted by: jamesdcarroll.g_mail.com
Actually, I think I've found the way that I'm going to go: Windows. I've
been fighting Hardy since the first day I installed it and at this point
its just really not worth it.
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260149 is a reply to message #260145] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 18:59 |
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Originally posted by: jamesdcarroll.g_mail.com
I had that already, but I didn't have XULRunner with GNOME support. I'm
up and running and if PayPal had 'hug and kisses' as a currency choice....
Well... thanks.
Now, off to read up on Debian/Ubuntu packaging. There's gotta be a better
way or if not, maybe I can help.
Thanks again,
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260156 is a reply to message #260149] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 05:32 |
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Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com
I'm sure the Eclipse Linux Distros project [1] (or Ubuntu) would love to
have contributions, if you want to help them .deb'ify Eclipse.
I use MEPIS 6, ubuntu 6.06LTS, AntiX 7 & xubuntu 8.04LTS on my
machines., and still prefer to `tar xzf` my Eclipse installs instead of
dpkg or apt-get, but to each their own. :)
If you decide you want to do more than hugs and kisses, consider
becoming a Friend of Eclipse [2].
[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Linux_Distributions_Projec t
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/donate/
Nick
JDC wrote:
> I had that already, but I didn't have XULRunner with GNOME support. I'm
> up and running and if PayPal had 'hug and kisses' as a currency choice....
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> Well... thanks.
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> Now, off to read up on Debian/Ubuntu packaging. There's gotta be a
> better way or if not, maybe I can help.
>
> Thanks again,
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260228 is a reply to message #260169] |
Mon, 07 July 2008 14:39 |
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Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com
> debianising eclipse is a pretty big task
Yes, which is perhaps why it doesn't happen the same week as the
coordinated releases. That and the fact that the ubuntu release cycle
(to pick on one distro) is april/october and the Eclipse release cycle
is june/september/february probably contributes to the disconnect.
>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Linux_Distributions_Projec t
> I think that project misses the point to a large extent
> Java hasn't been popular in the open source world - because it hasn't
> been open source
> Although Eclipse has always been open source it has depended on Suns
> Java which until recently couldn't be included in Linux distros.
Just because it can't be on the .iso doesn't mean that should prevent
usage. Downloading and installing a closed-source JVM is pretty trivial,
even for the noobiest of linux users (it's easier than installing, say,
the Flash plugin for Firefox) and while I appreciate and subscribe to
the "everything should be open" mantra, I still use Skype and Sun/IBM
JVMs on a daily basis. I also use a lot of software that while open, its
source will never be read by me. (eg., OpenOffice, Pidgin, Firefox...)
> Now Java has been open sourced - Eclipse is available in Linux distros -
> but it will take time to build the user base in Linux - and without that
> user base packaging will be slower.
Well, there's also the perception that "Eclipse is for Java" despite the
ongoing work to push C/C++, PHP, Javascript, Ruby, Python, Perl...
> It's also apparent that Eclipse development often targets Windows -
> because that's where most of its developers are.
Yes, and that's changing over time, but it's a gradual transition --
like Internet Explorer users moving to Firefox. There's a lot of
resistance to the linux-as-desktop idea from the mainstream, but with
Vista being touted as the next Windows Me, Linux & Mac adoption are
growing... which is also why Eclipse on Mac is finally getting more
attention.
On the flip side, I use Linux every day, so I get the occasional
complaint that my stuff (build systems using bash scripts) won't run on
Windows. :)
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Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
Eclipse Modeling :: http://www.eclipse.org/modeling
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260277 is a reply to message #260228] |
Mon, 07 July 2008 18:42 |
 Sean Burlington
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Nick Boldt wrote:
> Just because it can't be on the .iso doesn't mean that should prevent
it is now :-)
(repositories anyway - I've not tried a full install CD fir a while)
> usage. Downloading and installing a closed-source JVM is pretty trivial,
The problem is that gcj is the default on many systems, and while the
packaged version of eclipse works with it plugins often don't - nor does
a downloaded version.
> even for the noobiest of linux users (it's easier than installing, say,
> the Flash plugin for Firefox) and while I appreciate and subscribe to
The non-free flash plugin has been pretty easy to install for a while -
besides people really know what it does and why they want it - whereas
someone trying out eclipse often won't know if it's the right thing for them
> the "everything should be open" mantra, I still use Skype and Sun/IBM
> JVMs on a daily basis. I also use a lot of software that while open, its
> source will never be read by me. (eg., OpenOffice, Pidgin, Firefox...)
Sun JVM is open now :-)
Should have been years ago - I'd have never learned Java if I'd known it
would take so long (and never would have tried eclipse)
>> Now Java has been open sourced - Eclipse is available in Linux distros
>> - but it will take time to build the user base in Linux - and without
>> that user base packaging will be slower.
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> Well, there's also the perception that "Eclipse is for Java" despite the
> ongoing work to push C/C++, PHP, Javascript, Ruby, Python, Perl...
Yeah - and for me this is one of the great strengths of Eclipse - I
mainly write PHP - and I could try Zend Studio ...
I find the Eclipse website to be quite inward looking
take this page for example http://www.eclipse.org/projects/whatsnew.php
Two clicks from the home page - I can't see any other what's new section
- I expect it to be a list of new features from the new release .... but
it's about Development Process Changes ...
The content for what's new exists (it's in the eclipse help) but much of
it is really hard to find online.
All those great screenshots - only available to people who have already
'bought into' Eclipse.
>> It's also apparent that Eclipse development often targets Windows -
>> because that's where most of its developers are.
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> Yes, and that's changing over time, but it's a gradual transition --
> like Internet Explorer users moving to Firefox. There's a lot of
> resistance to the linux-as-desktop idea from the mainstream, but with
> Vista being touted as the next Windows Me, Linux & Mac adoption are
> growing... which is also why Eclipse on Mac is finally getting more
> attention.
Over the last year I've seen relatively few developers on Windows (less
than half) with the majority split between Linux and Macs
PHP developers develop for Linux and it's far far easier to run a
development environment on Ubuntu than on Windows.
> On the flip side, I use Linux every day, so I get the occasional
> complaint that my stuff (build systems using bash scripts) won't run on
> Windows. :)
>
bash works just fine on windows ;-)
I spent a year using WIndows recently - Cygwin is the only way I
survived ;-)
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Sean
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260317 is a reply to message #260156] |
Tue, 08 July 2008 02:41 |
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Originally posted by: jamesdcarroll.g_mail.com
Actually I'm reading through the Ubuntu MOTU stuff right now with
aspirations of deb'ing Eclipse. I dunno though; seems really hard, but
then again anything worth while usually is.
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| Re: Ganymede fails after update [message #260353 is a reply to message #260317] |
Tue, 08 July 2008 13:07 |
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Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com
IIRC, a .deb is just a .tar.gz of the filesystem tree, rooted at /, with
an accompanying script for setting permissions and other after-unpacking
steps. It can't be *that* difficult.
Kudos on offering to undertake this! Please keep us posted as to your
progress -- I for one would be willing to help test your packages.
JDC wrote:
> Actually I'm reading through the Ubuntu MOTU stuff right now with
> aspirations of deb'ing Eclipse. I dunno though; seems really hard, but
> then again anything worth while usually is.
>
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Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
Eclipse Modeling :: http://www.eclipse.org/modeling
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb
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