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Using Eclipse help system [message #1440576] Wed, 08 October 2014 14:42 Go to next message
Thomas Elskens is currently offline Thomas ElskensFriend
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Hello,

I'm trying to get the Eclipse help system to work in my efxclipse application, but I've a problem to get the dependencies right.

I've already added lot's of them to my target definition file in order to resolve the dependencies of org.eclipse.help and org.eclipse.webapp :

org.eclipse.help, org.eclipse.help.base, org.eclipse.ui, org.eclipse.webapp, org.eclipse.ant.core, org.apache.lucene.core, org.apache.lucene.analysis, org.eclipse.core.net, org.eclipse.core.variables.

However, now Eclipse wants me to add org.eclipse.swt. For swt, org.eclipse.jface. For Jface, org.eclipse.ui.workbench. For workbench, org.eclipse.e4.ui.internal.workbench.renderers.swt. This sounds like a neverendingstory.

Am I doing something wrong ? Or is the help system not (yet) available in efxclipse ?

Thomas
Re: Using Eclipse help system [message #1440581 is a reply to message #1440576] Wed, 08 October 2014 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Uwe San is currently offline Uwe SanFriend
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Hi,

if I'm not mistaken, there is no JavaFX implementation of the Eclipse help system yet. Contributions would be appreciated. Wink

Cheers,
Uwe
Re: Using Eclipse help system [message #1440593 is a reply to message #1440581] Wed, 08 October 2014 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Elskens is currently offline Thomas ElskensFriend
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My mistake, I looked over the enhancement request https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=415870.

Lots of things to contribute, meanwhile i've already voted for the request Wink
Re: Using Eclipse help system [message #1440599 is a reply to message #1440593] Wed, 08 October 2014 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Uwe San is currently offline Uwe SanFriend
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Thank you. I had completely forgotten about that request.
Re: Using Eclipse help system [message #1440766 is a reply to message #1440576] Wed, 08 October 2014 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas SchindlFriend
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Hi,

As you already found out not even SWT+e4 apps can today use the
Help-System. I've not yet looked into the basic help system stuff but
I'm not sure it will help us a lot but certainly we could learn from it.

I know there are still many things we need to port and in many cases I
think we probably should not do a 1:1 port and rethink if we can do
things better while learning from the stuff that was done for Eclipse 3.x.

Things on the top of my list are:
* Support for Install/Update using p2
* Help System
* A generic Viewer-Framework similar to Common-Navigator
* Generic Views as known from 3.x
- Console View
- Error Framework
- Status Reporter
- Log Configurator
- Log/Error Viewer
- Properties View
* Wizard-System / Dialog System on top of ControlsFX and or 8u40 Dialogs

At least the first 2 are very important for business applications but
are a lot of work and I'm not sure we have the needed opensource cycles
to make them happen

Tom

On 08.10.14 16:42, Thomas Elskens wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to get the Eclipse help system to work in my efxclipse
> application, but I've a problem to get the dependencies right.
> I've already added lot's of them to my target definition file in order
> to resolve the dependencies of org.eclipse.help and org.eclipse.webapp :
>
> org.eclipse.help, org.eclipse.help.base, org.eclipse.ui,
> org.eclipse.webapp, org.eclipse.ant.core, org.apache.lucene.core,
> org.apache.lucene.analysis, org.eclipse.core.net,
> org.eclipse.core.variables.
>
> However, now Eclipse wants me to add org.eclipse.swt. For swt,
> org.eclipse.jface. For Jface, org.eclipse.ui.workbench. For workbench,
> org.eclipse.e4.ui.internal.workbench.renderers.swt. This sounds like a
> neverendingstory.
> Am I doing something wrong ? Or is the help system not (yet) available
> in efxclipse ?
>
> Thomas
Re: Using Eclipse help system [message #1441304 is a reply to message #1440766] Thu, 09 October 2014 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Elskens is currently offline Thomas ElskensFriend
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Hello,

I'm not sure I understand the first item on the list, "Support for Install/Update using p2" : isn't that a functionality taken care of by the tycho-p2-repository-plugin... ?

Thomas
Re: Using Eclipse help system [message #1441308 is a reply to message #1441304] Thu, 09 October 2014 14:44 Go to previous message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas SchindlFriend
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Tycho has nothing to do with that it only allows you to generate p2 repos.

What I'm talking about is the p2-support inside the e4+JavaFX app where
we need an UI which allows to do the following things:
* schedule repeatable updates
* inform that updates are available and the user choose if he wants to
install it (or force an install if the update is considered mandatory)
* simple UI to install additional components
* full blown UI like the Install-Wizard inside Eclipse (least important
thing IMHO)

I'm sure someone on the forum has additional ideas but those are the
ones I'd like us to support (1-3, 4 is nice but not needed in business
apps).

Tom

On 09.10.14 16:35, Thomas Elskens wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure I understand the first item on the list, "Support for
> Install/Update using p2" : isn't that a functionality taken care of by
> the tycho-p2-repository-plugin... ?
>
> Thomas
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