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BPMN - BPEL [message #25001] Wed, 14 March 2007 16:58 Go to next message
Wojciech Zurek is currently offline Wojciech ZurekFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi All,

I have seen nice presentation on the EclipseCon about STP project. They have
BPMN diagram editor that can be annotated with some BPEL specific
information and then (probably) saved as BPEL and executed.
How this is related to JWT? (I've noticed that they don't use AgiPro! :-)

Wojtek
Re: BPMN - BPEL [message #25051 is a reply to message #25001] Wed, 14 March 2007 18:22 Go to previous message
Marc Dutoo is currently offline Marc DutooFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi Wojciech

We've had a telco with the STP BPMN guys from Intalio, people like
Antoine Toulme, Hugues Malphettes, Don Neely... Actually they've had
larger talks with Alain Boulze and the Objectweb / OW2 consortium (which
supports JWT) about possible joint developments. We did discuss
architecture issues and obviously potential synergies between BPMN and
JWT, so it was very interesting. At some point we also almost made a
joint press release but it would have been too soon :)

The point was, the BPMN project and JWT have not the same goals.
Obviously BPMN would be very interested for example by an XPDL mapping,
but JWT's goals go much further, like having process testing features
(in the WAM) and genericity at its heart.

Actually, there's no preconceived idea in JWT that our goals should be
achieved through one way or another. If at the end of the day the actual
software is in STP, or if the BPMN modeling is achieved by plugging the
BPMN project on top, we would still achieve our core goal of providing a
working, usable, generic business process development tool. However,
it appeared during the inception of JWT that the easiest way to push
these ideas forward was to actually do it, and then why not jump on the
best opportunities to add value to existing projects and tools, since
genericity will allow us to do that.

How do the model you've seen in the presentation compare to others like
AgilPro's, XPDL's ?

Regards
Marc Dutoo
Open Wide

Wojciech Zurek wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have seen nice presentation on the EclipseCon about STP project. They have
> BPMN diagram editor that can be annotated with some BPEL specific
> information and then (probably) saved as BPEL and executed.
> How this is related to JWT? (I've noticed that they don't use AgiPro! :-)
>
> Wojtek
>
>
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