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copy paste bug [message #252413] Thu, 03 April 2008 12:38 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hello,

I've searched in eclipse bug database for copy paste issues, there are
hundreds.. therefore I'm posting here.

Im using eclipse 3.3.11, build M20071023-1652 under win xp, but my
previous eclipse version had the same issue also.

The problem: copy paste doesn't work > 30-40% of the time at all.
Neither keyboard shortcuts nor context menu, sometimes after hitting
CTRL+C > 30 times it works again, but there is no any warranty how long it
keeps working.

I know, there is so many tasks to perform (imports, indenting, etc, etc)
when executing copy/paste actions, but hell again, if such a "simple"
feature and from user perspective its *damn simple* doesn't work in
several versions, what the hell should the user think about entire project?

This "simple" feature is not really rarly used one, I still can't beleive
that this bug remains unfixed during several releases.

I have no time to read all reported copy paste issues but I see this bug
as an absolute priority 1 BLOCKER (atleast if its reproducable and not the
problem of a few users). Maybe some developer from the core team would
read this post and hopefully fix this issue with the next release.

Thanks,
Sergiy
Re: copy paste bug [message #252422 is a reply to message #252413] Thu, 03 April 2008 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Sergiy,

As a developer, I would be very concerned if basic simple things don't
work. I would want to fix them immediately. I do that for EMF
regularly. But as developer, I often find I'm stuck because I simply
can't reproduce the problem that's tormenting someone else. That's
really frustrating for me and for the person with the problem. So you
can imagine that a high quality bug report that makes reproducing the
problem easy would be highly valued. If you can try to come up with a
reproducible scenario for this issue, it's far more likely that your
problem will be addressed and fixed.

Some things you might try. If you invoke Copy/Ctrl+C are the results
pasteable into notepad say? Does Ctrl-C work in notepad when it's not
working in Eclipse? Does gaining and losing focus in the editor affect
the problem? Does it only happen in the Java editor, and not the
regular text editor? I don't suppose there are any symptoms being
logged in the Error log because you'd have noticed that. You mention
paste as a problem, but it sound a little like only copy is the problem...

And lastly, try to be nice to the people who do things for you for
free. They'll be way more inclined to help you...


Sergiy Michka wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've searched in eclipse bug database for copy paste issues, there are
> hundreds.. therefore I'm posting here.
>
> Im using eclipse 3.3.11, build M20071023-1652 under win xp, but my
> previous eclipse version had the same issue also.
>
> The problem: copy paste doesn't work > 30-40% of the time at all.
> Neither keyboard shortcuts nor context menu, sometimes after hitting
> CTRL+C > 30 times it works again, but there is no any warranty how
> long it keeps working.
>
> I know, there is so many tasks to perform (imports, indenting, etc,
> etc) when executing copy/paste actions, but hell again, if such a
> "simple" feature and from user perspective its *damn simple* doesn't
> work in several versions, what the hell should the user think about
> entire project?
>
> This "simple" feature is not really rarly used one, I still can't
> beleive that this bug remains unfixed during several releases.
>
> I have no time to read all reported copy paste issues but I see this
> bug as an absolute priority 1 BLOCKER (atleast if its reproducable and
> not the problem of a few users). Maybe some developer from the core
> team would read this post and hopefully fix this issue with the next
> release.
>
> Thanks,
> Sergiy
>
>
>
Re: copy paste bug [message #252431 is a reply to message #252413] Thu, 03 April 2008 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: wharley.bea.com

"Sergiy Michka" <smichka@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:abe386cb9d24a58a7e086023915b7143$1@www.eclipse.org...
> The problem: copy paste doesn't work > 30-40% of the time at all.
> Neither keyboard shortcuts nor context menu, sometimes after hitting
> CTRL+C > 30 times it works again, but there is no any warranty how long it
> keeps working.
>
> I know, there is so many tasks to perform (imports, indenting, etc, etc)
> when executing copy/paste actions, but hell again, if such a "simple"
> feature and from user perspective its *damn simple* doesn't work in
> several versions, what the hell should the user think about entire
> project?

The user should think "hmm, if other people are able to use this product
without complaining about this seemingly severe problem, maybe there is
something special about my configuration that is causing me to be affected
more than the other people."


> I have no time to read all reported copy paste issues but I see this bug
> as an absolute priority 1 BLOCKER (atleast if its reproducable and not the
> problem of a few users).

Yes indeed. So, the implication is that either the entire Eclipse platform
team is irremediably insane, or else your problem is either not
reproduceable or it's the problem of only a few users. The latter
hypotheses seem more likely.

How about if you chip in, by trying to find the most relevant Bugzilla entry
and adding your information to it? It'll be very important to specify
things like what your hardware and driver platform is and what other
software is running at the same time. I've heard of problems like, for
instance, some video driver utility software randomly grabbing keystrokes
and not passing them on to the OS. It seems very likely that the problem is
due to something related to your hardware or software configuration.

If you don't have even that much time to help solve this "priority 1
BLOCKER" bug, then why would you think someone else would have time to solve
it for you?
Re: copy paste bug [message #252435 is a reply to message #252431] Fri, 04 April 2008 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
You both are right, sorry about a bit to rude tone guys.
As I mentioned before, there were already few copy/paste bug reports, the
whole report can be found here:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=157066.

Thanks for your time!

Sergiy
Re: copy paste bug [message #252442 is a reply to message #252435] Fri, 04 April 2008 15:22 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: wharley.bea.com

"Sergiy Michka" <smichka@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:03317cbd6e89bb0500b119cb19c4618a$1@www.eclipse.org...
> You both are right, sorry about a bit to rude tone guys.
> As I mentioned before, there were already few copy/paste bug reports, the
> whole report can be found here:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=157066.


Thanks, Sergiy.

I wonder if the problem goes away if you kill WinVNC? I ask because I think
I've seen it myself when using Windows Terminal Server, not otherwise.

Also, although it may be hard to tell, I wonder if you are seeing the same
behavior that some others reported, where copying from one Java editor to
another does successfully paste the imports but does not paste the copied
code? You mentioned copying within a single file, in which case that
wouldn't apply.
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