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Help plugins and Eclipse 3.0 [message #249438]

Fri, 04 June 2004 08:58

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: glongman.intelligentworks.nospam.com

I have a 2.1.X plugin that contains only help stuff:

plugin.xml
toc.xml
/docs folder

the extension:

<extension point="org.eclipse.help.toc">
<toc file="toc.xml" primary="true"/>
</extension>

Works in 2.1.X but hasn't in 3.0 since M8 (didn't try it in M1-M7). The
plugin appears to be properly loaded and there are no log entries.I was
hoping to not have to convert the plugin to 3.0 but just to make sure I did
so with the same results - no help entries shown/no errors.

Has the method of contributing help changed for 3.0? I don't see an
reference to this in the porting guide.The plugin contains no classes and
therefore make no reference to the help API's
--
Geoff

Geoffrey Longman
Intelligent Works Inc.

Re: Help plugins and Eclipse 3.0 [message #249537 is a reply to message #249438]

Fri, 04 June 2004 10:43

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: dorian.birsan.net

"G Longman" <glongman@intelligentworks.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:c9pr0q$86j$1@eclipse.org...
> I have a 2.1.X plugin that contains only help stuff:
>
> plugin.xml
> toc.xml
> /docs folder
>
> the extension:
>
> <extension point="org.eclipse.help.toc">
> <toc file="toc.xml" primary="true"/>
> </extension>
>
> Works in 2.1.X but hasn't in 3.0 since M8 (didn't try it in M1-M7). The
> plugin appears to be properly loaded and there are no log entries.I was
> hoping to not have to convert the plugin to 3.0 but just to make sure I
did
> so with the same results - no help entries shown/no errors.
>
> Has the method of contributing help changed for 3.0? I don't see an
> reference to this in the porting guide.The plugin contains no classes and
> therefore make no reference to the help API's

Help contributions have not changed.
Is your plugins loaded? Use the RC1 build and see if it works. If not, check
the Help > About dialog and click on PluginDetails to see what plugins are
known to the runtime.

> --
> Geoff
>
> Geoffrey Longman
> Intelligent Works Inc.
>
>

Re: Help plugins and Eclipse 3.0 [message #249640 is a reply to message #249537]

Fri, 04 June 2004 11:58

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: glongman.intelligentworks.nospam.com

Have been trying it in RC1. Both "Plug-in Details" and "Configuration
Details" shows the plugin is loaded. No error in the log, but no help in the
helpcenter.

:-(

Is there another way I can trace this problem out?

The plugin is tiny as I have not filled out much yet - the project is
attached (27KB)

Geoff

"dorian birsan" <dorian@birsan.net> wrote in message
news:c9q1bs$hf2$1@eclipse.org...
>
> "G Longman" <glongman@intelligentworks.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:c9pr0q$86j$1@eclipse.org...
> > I have a 2.1.X plugin that contains only help stuff:
> >
> > plugin.xml
> > toc.xml
> > /docs folder
> >
> > the extension:
> >
> > <extension point="org.eclipse.help.toc">
> > <toc file="toc.xml" primary="true"/>
> > </extension>
> >
> > Works in 2.1.X but hasn't in 3.0 since M8 (didn't try it in M1-M7). The
> > plugin appears to be properly loaded and there are no log entries.I was
> > hoping to not have to convert the plugin to 3.0 but just to make sure I
> did
> > so with the same results - no help entries shown/no errors.
> >
> > Has the method of contributing help changed for 3.0? I don't see an
> > reference to this in the porting guide.The plugin contains no classes
and
> > therefore make no reference to the help API's
>
> Help contributions have not changed.
> Is your plugins loaded? Use the RC1 build and see if it works. If not,
check
> the Help > About dialog and click on PluginDetails to see what plugins are
> known to the runtime.
>
> > --
> > Geoff
> >
> > Geoffrey Longman
> > Intelligent Works Inc.
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: Help plugins and Eclipse 3.0 [message #249768 is a reply to message #249438]

Fri, 04 June 2004 17:19

Eclipse User

G Longman wrote:
> I have a 2.1.X plugin that contains only help stuff:
>
> plugin.xml
> toc.xml
> /docs folder
>
> the extension:
>
> <extension point="org.eclipse.help.toc">
> <toc file="toc.xml" primary="true"/>
> </extension>
>
> Works in 2.1.X but hasn't in 3.0 since M8 (didn't try it in M1-M7). The
> plugin appears to be properly loaded and there are no log entries.I was
> hoping to not have to convert the plugin to 3.0 but just to make sure I did
> so with the same results - no help entries shown/no errors.
>
> Has the method of contributing help changed for 3.0? I don't see an
> reference to this in the porting guide.The plugin contains no classes and
> therefore make no reference to the help API's
> --
> Geoff
>
> Geoffrey Longman
> Intelligent Works Inc.
>
>

I found in Eclipse 3.0 M9 that I had to add <?eclipse version="3.0"?> PI
right after the XML declaration in plugin.xml, although the same 2.1.x
help plug-ins without that PI worked in Eclipse 3.0 M8 (IIRC).

Dan

Re: Help plugins and Eclipse 3.0 [message #249793 is a reply to message #249640]

Fri, 04 June 2004 18:06

Eclipse User

Add some topic elements with href attributes to your TOC. In 3.0 help
system automatically filters topics that have no content or children topics
with contents. Same applies to books, but topic attribute on the book
itself does not count - does not yet make the TOC visible.

Konrad

"G Longman" <glongman@intelligentworks.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:c9q5gv$nej$1@eclipse.org...
> Have been trying it in RC1. Both "Plug-in Details" and "Configuration
> Details" shows the plugin is loaded. No error in the log, but no help in
the
> helpcenter.
>
> :-(
>
> Is there another way I can trace this problem out?
>
> The plugin is tiny as I have not filled out much yet - the project is
> attached (27KB)
>
> Geoff
>
> "dorian birsan" <dorian@birsan.net> wrote in message
> news:c9q1bs$hf2$1@eclipse.org...
> >
> > "G Longman" <glongman@intelligentworks.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:c9pr0q$86j$1@eclipse.org...
> > > I have a 2.1.X plugin that contains only help stuff:
> > >
> > > plugin.xml
> > > toc.xml
> > > /docs folder
> > >
> > > the extension:
> > >
> > > <extension point="org.eclipse.help.toc">
> > > <toc file="toc.xml" primary="true"/>
> > > </extension>
> > >
> > > Works in 2.1.X but hasn't in 3.0 since M8 (didn't try it in M1-M7).
The
> > > plugin appears to be properly loaded and there are no log entries.I
was
> > > hoping to not have to convert the plugin to 3.0 but just to make sure
I
> > did
> > > so with the same results - no help entries shown/no errors.
> > >
> > > Has the method of contributing help changed for 3.0? I don't see an
> > > reference to this in the porting guide.The plugin contains no classes
> and
> > > therefore make no reference to the help API's
> >
> > Help contributions have not changed.
> > Is your plugins loaded? Use the RC1 build and see if it works. If not,
> check
> > the Help > About dialog and click on PluginDetails to see what plugins
are
> > known to the runtime.
> >
> > > --
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > > Geoffrey Longman
> > > Intelligent Works Inc.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Help plugins and Eclipse 3.0 [message #250074 is a reply to message #249768]

Mon, 07 June 2004 09:26

Eclipse User

Dan Scott wrote:
> G Longman wrote:
>
>> I have a 2.1.X plugin that contains only help stuff:
>>
>> plugin.xml
>> toc.xml
>> /docs folder
>>
>> the extension:
>>
>> <extension point="org.eclipse.help.toc">
>> <toc file="toc.xml" primary="true"/>
>> </extension>
>>
>> Works in 2.1.X but hasn't in 3.0 since M8 (didn't try it in M1-M7). The
>> plugin appears to be properly loaded and there are no log entries.I was
>> hoping to not have to convert the plugin to 3.0 but just to make sure
>> I did
>> so with the same results - no help entries shown/no errors.
>>
>> Has the method of contributing help changed for 3.0? I don't see an
>> reference to this in the porting guide.The plugin contains no classes and
>> therefore make no reference to the help API's
>> --
>> Geoff
>>
>> Geoffrey Longman
>> Intelligent Works Inc.
>>
>>
>
> I found in Eclipse 3.0 M9 that I had to add <?eclipse version="3.0"?> PI
> right after the XML declaration in plugin.xml, although the same 2.1.x
> help plug-ins without that PI worked in Eclipse 3.0 M8 (IIRC).
>
> Dan

Ah, someone pointed out to me that the set-up instructions for the
minimal help system (standalone or infocenter) no longer include the
org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility plug-in, which would enable the
2.1.x plug-ins to work without modification. Perhaps this should be
documented as a special case for the minimal set of plug-ins?

Dan

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