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| Re: Project Selection misses "IDE for DSL developers" [message #1408979 is a reply to message #1408942] |
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Hi Martin,<br>
<br>
We generate our Eclipse.org product catalog (notice that it's not a
*project* catalog) directly from the metadata of the p2 repositories
of the Eclipse Packaging Project (EPP):<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/tree/setups/org.eclipse.products.setup">http://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/tree/setups/org.eclipse.products.setup</a><br>
<br>
When you open this generated product catalog from within an IDE that
has Oomph installed you see this:<br>
<br>
<img src="https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=getfile&id=18890" alt=""><br>
<br>
So the feature list you asked for is inside the EPP Luna repository:<br>
<br>
<img src="https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=getfile&id=18891" alt=""><br>
<br>
I compared this to the feature list given in
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-and-dsl-developers/lunar">https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-and-dsl-developers/lunar</a>
:<br>
<br>
org.eclipse.cvs<br>
org.eclipse.egit<br>
org.eclipse.egit.import<br>
org.eclipse.emf.ecore.xcore.sdk<br>
org.eclipse.emf.sdk<br>
org.eclipse.epp.mpc<br>
org.eclipse.epp.package.common.feature<br>
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.user.ui<br>
org.eclipse.help<br>
org.eclipse.jdt<br>
org.eclipse.m2e.feature<br>
org.eclipse.pde<br>
org.eclipse.platform<br>
org.eclipse.rcp<br>
org.eclipse.sdk<br>
org.eclipse.wst.xml_ui.feature<br>
org.eclipse.xtend.sdk<br>
org.eclipse.xtext.sdk<br>
<br>
The two list are identical w.r.t. the "payload", so I conclude that
the packages are the same and the downloads page uses some
additional, non-p2 metadata to determine the label for a package,
i.e., "Eclipse IDE for Java and DSL Developers", while we rely on
the real p2 metadata, i.e.:<br>
<br>
<unit id='epp.package.dsl' version='4.4.0.20140612-0500'><br>
<update id='epp.package.dsl' range='0.0.0'
severity='0'/><br>
<properties size='3'><br>
<property name='org.eclipse.equinox.p2.name'
value='*Eclipse DSL Tools*'/><br>
<property name='org.eclipse.equinox.p2.type.product'
value='true'/><br>
<property name='org.eclipse.equinox.p2.type.group'
value='true'/><br>
</properties><br>
...<br>
<br>
It strikes me as slightly odd and especially confusing that a
package's name (I mean label) is different on the downloads page and
in p2. I don't know why the EPP maintainers have the chance to get
into this state and I suspect they're not even aware. I've cc'ed
Dennis (Xtext) and Markus (EPP) in the hope that they can comment on
this.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
/Eike<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.08.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Martin
Roob:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:lsnsip$nep$1@xxxxxxxxe.org" type="cite">Hi,
I'm a newcomer concerning Oomph.
<br>
I just started the Installer and have a first problem on the first
page of the wizards.
<br>
My intention was to install the Luna version of "Eclipse IDE for
Java and DSL Developers".
<br>
And (following Murphies Law) exactly this project is not in the
selection list of the installation wizard.
<br>
There is "Eclipse DSL Tools" and there is "Eclipse Modeling
Tools".
<br>
But I can't see, what is the right one for me.
<br>
I see a product id like "epp.package.dsl" but no description about
the package.
<br>
So the questions are
<br>
- Why is there no "Eclipse IDE for Java and DSL Developers"
although it is on the eclipse.org downloads page?
<br>
- How can I see what features are beyond the package the wizard
shows?
<br>
<br>
Every help is welcome.
<br>
Thanks in advance.
<br>
<br>
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Cheers
/Eike
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