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What Eclipse Package to Start With? [message #1400803] Mon, 14 July 2014 18:44 Go to next message
Ben Harper is currently offline Ben HarperFriend
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I need to support PHP, Python, Javascript/ECMA, Perl (can live w/o). I would also like to use a decent vi/vim module and would also like to use the Oracle module for connecting to Oracle databases.

My primary focus will be Python.

Can I get all these working within the same eclipse install?

What would be the best package to download and start with? Eclipse Standard 4.4?

Thx for any info!
Re: What Eclipse Package to Start With? [message #1401457 is a reply to message #1400803] Tue, 15 July 2014 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Chuck,

Yes, you can try to start with standard 4.4. There's no obvious reason
you can't get them all working in one Eclipse. On the vi front, I'm
rather fond of http://www.viplugin.com/index.htm and have been using it
for many years.


On 15/07/2014 1:31 AM, Chuck Carson wrote:
> I need to support PHP, Python, Javascript/ECMA, Perl (can live w/o). I
> would also like to use a decent vi/vim module and would also like to
> use the Oracle module for connecting to Oracle databases.
>
> My primary focus will be Python.
>
> Can I get all these working within the same eclipse install?
> What would be the best package to download and start with? Eclipse
> Standard 4.4?
>
> Thx for any info!
Re: What Eclipse Package to Start With? [message #1401698 is a reply to message #1400803] Wed, 16 July 2014 01:30 Go to previous message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell BatemanFriend
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On 07/14/2014 05:31 PM, Chuck Carson wrote:
> I need to support PHP, Python, Javascript/ECMA, Perl (can live w/o). I
> would also like to use a decent vi/vim module and would also like to use
> the Oracle module for connecting to Oracle databases.
>
> My primary focus will be Python.
>
> Can I get all these working within the same eclipse install?
> What would be the best package to download and start with? Eclipse
> Standard 4.4?
>
> Thx for any info!

What Ed said already about the Eclipse package.

However, I too used the viPlugin many years ago and even upgraded (paid
the fee a couple of times). My personal assessment is that all it
accomplishes is to transform your keyboard during editing into a
base-level vi emulation. It did not do vim at the time though it may
now. It did not support .exrc or .vimrc where the real power lies. You
still had to use Eclipse to save the file, etc. Again, maybe this has
changed, don't trust my assessment completely as it may be out of date.

On the other hand, ...

Vim/vi integration with Eclipse is more fully achieved using
http://eclim.org. There is no charge for this. It's a bit wild, but if
you're a full-tilt vim user, I think you'd prefer it, especially if you
haven't spent years using Eclipse without it, because the integration is
relatively intrusive, in a good way when you're coming from vim as a
power user, not in so good a way if you've gotten used to and formed
habits using Eclipse before trying it.

My case is the latter and, though I've been going to bite the bullet and
go for full integration, I just leave vim running to perform actual
editing tasks when I want the power, but when I want lots of Eclipse
Java Content Assist (think Intellisense), I turn to the Eclipse editor.
Both environments are perfectly aware when the other makes changes and
will ask you if you want those changes reflected.

Hope this helps. Best of luck!
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