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CDT 5.0 MSVC integration [message #211077] Tue, 04 March 2008 11:14 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: labmonkey42.gmail.com

I understand that an msvc toolchain is planned for cdt 5.0 this summer.
Is this integration available in the nightly builds at all yet? I
installed the 3.4 platform and cdt 5.0M5a yesterday and don't see any
option to use msvc in my project(s).

I'd like to volunteer for early adoption/testing if msvc support is even
alpha-level yet.

Thanks,
Chris
Re: CDT 5.0 MSVC integration [message #211085 is a reply to message #211077] Tue, 04 March 2008 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dschaefer.rogers.com

Chris Lee wrote:
> I understand that an msvc toolchain is planned for cdt 5.0 this summer.
> Is this integration available in the nightly builds at all yet? I
> installed the 3.4 platform and cdt 5.0M5a yesterday and don't see any
> option to use msvc in my project(s).
>
> I'd like to volunteer for early adoption/testing if msvc support is even
> alpha-level yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

Actually, no, it's not planned for CDT 5.0. (Just wondering where you
heard that so I can fix it).

It will show up in a tech preview in Wascana over the summer some time.
But even then, if I can get MinGW gcc 4.3.x and gdb 6.7.x working well,
that will be the preferred toolchain for Wascana.

The real stumbling block has been a debug integration. Without that, I'm
not interested in spending time on it. However, if you'd like to try it,
it is in CVS on dev.eclipse.org, repository /cvsroot/tools, module:

org.eclipse.cdt/windows/org.eclipse.cdt.msw.build

Cheers,
Doug.
Re: CDT 5.0 MSVC integration [message #211101 is a reply to message #211085] Tue, 04 March 2008 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: labmonkey42.gmail.com

Doug Schaefer wrote:

> Actually, no, it's not planned for CDT 5.0. (Just wondering where you
> heard that so I can fix it).

http://www.nabble.com/Project-perspective-lists-MINGW-includ es-for-in-C%2B%2B-Makefile-project-created-with-%22other-too lchain%22-option-tt15461658.html#a15486817

> It will show up in a tech preview in Wascana over the summer some time.
> But even then, if I can get MinGW gcc 4.3.x and gdb 6.7.x working well,
> that will be the preferred toolchain for Wascana.

> The real stumbling block has been a debug integration. Without that, I'm
> not interested in spending time on it. However, if you'd like to try it,
> it is in CVS on dev.eclipse.org, repository /cvsroot/tools, module:

> org.eclipse.cdt/windows/org.eclipse.cdt.msw.build

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

> Cheers,
> Doug.

Thanks,
Chris
Re: CDT 5.0 MSVC integration [message #211109 is a reply to message #211101] Tue, 04 March 2008 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: dschaefer.rogers.com

Chris Lee wrote:
> Doug Schaefer wrote:
>
>> Actually, no, it's not planned for CDT 5.0. (Just wondering where you
>> heard that so I can fix it).
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Project-perspective-lists-MINGW-includ es-for-in-C%2B%2B-Makefile-project-created-with-%22other-too lchain%22-option-tt15461658.html#a15486817
>
>> It will show up in a tech preview in Wascana over the summer some
>> time. But even then, if I can get MinGW gcc 4.3.x and gdb 6.7.x
>> working well, that will be the preferred toolchain for Wascana.

Well, I'm kind-a saying the same thing :).

I just don't want to commit to making it an official part of the CDT
since I don't really plan on doing much more work on it. We certainly
will accept patches and if someone steps up to take care of it, we can
put it on the CDT update site. But without a debugger, I'm not sure it's
a good solution.

Either way, it will be in Wascana in hopes people will start to use it
and contribute to it. Wascana is where I will be focusing most of my CDT
work for Windows development going forward since it is a more complete
solution and has a tool chain line up that is fixed and supportable.

Doug.
Re: CDT 5.0 MSVC integration [message #211346 is a reply to message #211109] Sat, 08 March 2008 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: labmonkey42.gmail.com

Doug Schaefer wrote:

> Well, I'm kind-a saying the same thing :).

> I just don't want to commit to making it an official part of the CDT
> since I don't really plan on doing much more work on it. We certainly
> will accept patches and if someone steps up to take care of it, we can
> put it on the CDT update site. But without a debugger, I'm not sure it's
> a good solution.

I completely understand if you don't want to officially release an
"incomplete" solution (lacking fully functional debugger). What I'm
trying to accomplish here is that I need to do some .NET development and
MSVC's syntax highlighting leaves a LOT to be desired. I don't really
care about the automatic code generation or graphical designer; I just
want to code with the UI I've become accustomed to.

> Either way, it will be in Wascana in hopes people will start to use it
> and contribute to it. Wascana is where I will be focusing most of my CDT
> work for Windows development going forward since it is a more complete
> solution and has a tool chain line up that is fixed and supportable.

I've looked (briefly) at Wascana before and it's very nice indeed. I'd
use it except that I bounce back and forth between eclipse/msys on windows
and eclipse on linux. So having the exact same interface on both
platforms is very helpful.

That being said... Has there been any sort of work done for .NET/CLR
scanning and indexing capability in CDT? Again, I'm sure you wouldn't
want to push an unfinished work to the mainstream but I'd be very
interested in testing it and providing feedback.

Thanks,
Chris

> Doug.
Re: CDT 5.0 MSVC integration [message #211421 is a reply to message #211346] Sun, 09 March 2008 11:57 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: dschaefer.rogers.com

Chris Lee wrote:
> Doug Schaefer wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm kind-a saying the same thing :).
>
>> I just don't want to commit to making it an official part of the CDT
>> since I don't really plan on doing much more work on it. We certainly
>> will accept patches and if someone steps up to take care of it, we can
>> put it on the CDT update site. But without a debugger, I'm not sure
>> it's a good solution.
>
> I completely understand if you don't want to officially release an
> "incomplete" solution (lacking fully functional debugger). What I'm
> trying to accomplish here is that I need to do some .NET development and
> MSVC's syntax highlighting leaves a LOT to be desired. I don't really
> care about the automatic code generation or graphical designer; I just
> want to code with the UI I've become accustomed to.

The incomplete solution is that there is no debugger support. You can't
debug your projects. If all you want to do is build, then the msvc
integration will do that.

>> Either way, it will be in Wascana in hopes people will start to use it
>> and contribute to it. Wascana is where I will be focusing most of my
>> CDT work for Windows development going forward since it is a more
>> complete solution and has a tool chain line up that is fixed and
>> supportable.
>
> I've looked (briefly) at Wascana before and it's very nice indeed. I'd
> use it except that I bounce back and forth between eclipse/msys on
> windows and eclipse on linux. So having the exact same interface on
> both platforms is very helpful.

There are no UI difference between Wascana and the standard Eclipse/CDT
unless all you're talking about is the icon and title bar.

> That being said... Has there been any sort of work done for .NET/CLR
> scanning and indexing capability in CDT? Again, I'm sure you wouldn't
> want to push an unfinished work to the mainstream but I'd be very
> interested in testing it and providing feedback.

No, there has been no real work on .Net at all. I tried to kickstart
such a project but there was little interest from the community and it's
a big job. Generally I find that these things don't happen unless
someone has a commercial interest in it.

Doug.
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