| Plugin Management within the IDE? [message #209813] |
Thu, 11 March 2004 14:00  |
Eclipse User |
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Is there going to be any ability to not only list all loaded plugins, but
see what plugins they depend on, which plugins depend on them, and the
ability to unload/reload plugins, as well as unload to remove plugins from
being used within the IDE if we have no use for them? For example, startup
time for me with one project open seems to be about 2 minutes. I can live
with it, but it does take some time. Right now with the latest M7-8 nightly,
it still takes over 8 minutes for my Eclipse to shut down. This is after a
full day of using it, and I am running JBoss IDE in it as well, and VSS
Plugin. But it seems unusually long to take 8+ minutes on a 1.8Ghz PIV with
1GB memory! When I look at how much mem it is using, it starts off at 30+ mb
or more, but by the end of the day, Eclipse is at over 250MB of memory
consumed. IS this due to memory leak? If I open files to edit, then close
them, start jboss which seems to have it's own java process in the task
list, and so on, why does the memory usage keep growing?
Anyway, what I would like to see in 3.0 final is the ability to customize
the plugins I want loaded with the IDE. I don't use the normal perspective
or some others. Mainly Java and Debug, that's it, so as far as I am
concerned, removing the plugins that pertain to those perspectives would
reduce a bit of load/memory I would assume. Things like the spell checker,
the help system which I never use, the PDE I never use, etc. I would love to
reduce the IDE footprint to only the things I need, and with all this
dynamic load/unload/reload ability in 3.0, I see no point in not letting us
techie developers control our environment a bit better.
So will there be this level of control? OR do I still have to "delete" the
plugins from the /plugins dir? I may want to use them again, so would like
to have them around.
Also, when will Eclipse start allowing plugins to be bundled as archived
files? I believe OSGi specifies a provision for that? I would much rather
put my plugin in either a zip file, or jar file or something and drop it
into the plugins dir, then have all these expanded directories on disk.
Eclipse could just generate the .class files, resources, etc right out of
the file on the fly, instead of uncompressing the jar/zip plugin or using
expanded directory format.
Thanks.
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| Re: Plugin Management within the IDE? [message #210195 is a reply to message #210055] |
Thu, 11 March 2004 21:05  |
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Originally posted by: dorian.birsan.net
You can enable/disable root features only, although optionally included
features can also be disabled.
If you know what you're doing, you can create a configuration containing the
exact plugins you want to run, and tell eclipse to work with it. This is not
documented much, if at all (check a recent post on the equinox newsgroup for
some discussion), but is possible.
-dorian
"Eric Bodden" <newsserver_mails@bodden.de> wrote in message
news:c2qqp8$brf$1@eclipse.org...
> Help -> Software Updates -> Manage Configuration (at least in die 3.0
> stream)
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> spiderman maundered in <c2qq6d$b8o$1@eclipse.org>
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> > Hmm, I don't see it? In the Help menu? That is the right-most menu I
> > see.
> >
> > "Eric Bodden" <newsserver_mails@bodden.de> wrote in message
> > news:c2qpbb$af7$1@eclipse.org...
> >> Some of what you wish for already exists - in the rightmost menu of
> >> eclipse (cannot remember the name right now - "Manage Configuration"
> >> I believe"). That allows plugin (de)activation and more. However -
> >> still to be extended, as everything ;-)
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
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